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[00:00:00] So let me ask our contributors to come [00:00:03] up onto the stage. First of all, David [00:00:05] CPPley. David is special assistant to [00:00:08] the president of the National Security [00:00:09] Council at the White House, former Navy [00:00:12] intelligence, also at Newmont, uh, and [00:00:15] now, as I say, working in Washington. [00:00:18] Dr. Doris Harum Galves is founder and [00:00:21] author of Designing Sustainable [00:00:23] Prosperity. She's also the program chair [00:00:26] this year for the World Mining Congress. [00:00:28] Trust, transformation, and technology [00:00:31] are the themes for that. Good to see [00:00:32] you, Doris. Kent Masters is the chair [00:00:35] and CEO of Albamal. Um, lithium of [00:00:38] course to your to the core, but globally [00:00:41] across so many countries working. Kent, [00:00:43] thank you for being with us. Over to my [00:00:46] left, Maximo Pacheco. Great to see you, [00:00:48] Maximo. Maximo is chair of the board at [00:00:50] Cadelo. Uh obviously with an emphasis on [00:00:53] copper but also as we'll hear lithium [00:00:55] I'm sure. Maximo Anna Cabral is co-chair [00:00:58] and CEO of Sigma Lithium in Brazil. Top [00:01:02] words on their program green and [00:01:05] sustainable. Anna very good to have you [00:01:07] here. Sean Ozar is the CEO of Valet [00:01:10] Based Metals. a focus on perhaps a [00:01:13] strategic vision of where we're going in [00:01:14] the future. H and a great pleasure to [00:01:16] have with us also Nicholas Lang, global [00:01:19] leader at BCG with 30 years of expertise [00:01:22] in the world of geopolitics. [00:01:25] These Thank you very much indeed a [00:01:27] welcome to all of you. Let's just hope [00:01:30] you get another round of applause at the [00:01:31] end, shall we? So, we'll see how that [00:01:33] goes. David, you're the sole government [00:01:35] representative here. I think it's fair [00:01:37] to say also coming from the White House [00:01:40] in the course of 12 months as Becky [00:01:42] referenced, my goodness, a lot's [00:01:44] changed. Things have radically changed [00:01:48] even on this platform here from 12 [00:01:50] months ago. So, I think perhaps could [00:01:51] you first of all give us in a nutshell [00:01:54] your White House perspective because [00:01:56] we're going to draw on that to see how [00:01:58] that affects many other parts of the [00:02:00] world and indeed the mineral sector. So, [00:02:02] over to you to kick us off. Thank you, [00:02:04] David, for inviting me to join the panel [00:02:06] today. And thank you so much to our [00:02:07] Saudi Arabian hosts for putting on this [00:02:09] incredible event. Well, I think the [00:02:11] straightforward answer to your panel [00:02:12] question of whether mining companies are [00:02:14] going to regain a leadership role in [00:02:16] national development is unequivocally [00:02:17] yes. And as a result, mining companies [00:02:20] are going to get a lot of attention from [00:02:22] guys like me and governments around the [00:02:24] world. In the United States, for a [00:02:26] number of decades, we've badly neglected [00:02:28] our mining sector and generally been [00:02:31] happy to outsource mining activities to [00:02:33] other countries and governments around [00:02:34] the world. According to Standard and [00:02:36] Pores, it takes 29 years to build an [00:02:38] average mine in the United States, [00:02:41] largely because of our very ownorous [00:02:42] permitting regime. But I'm proud to say [00:02:45] that under President Trump's leadership, [00:02:47] the United States has done a complete [00:02:49] 180 in the last 12 months and again made [00:02:51] mining a priority area for our national [00:02:53] development. Because as all of you [00:02:55] understand, minerals are the elemental [00:02:58] building blocks of everything we need to [00:03:00] re-industrialize our country. So what [00:03:03] are we doing in the US? I would say [00:03:05] broadly four things. We're investing in [00:03:08] mining projects. We're stockpiling [00:03:10] minerals. We're going to protect our [00:03:13] mining companies. And we're rebuilding [00:03:15] our mining ecosystem. [00:03:18] To start, we're investing heavily in [00:03:20] mining specific projects like our recent [00:03:22] deals with MP materials, lithium [00:03:25] Americas, Korea zinc, modern here in the [00:03:28] kingdom and many, many others. I believe [00:03:32] over the next few years, the United [00:03:34] States government will deploy hundreds [00:03:36] of billions of dollars of capital into [00:03:38] the mining sector between debt and [00:03:40] equity. We are doing things the American [00:03:42] government has never done before, like [00:03:44] equity investing, so we can get deals to [00:03:47] pencil quickly and move forward. We're [00:03:49] creating public private investment funds [00:03:51] like our critical minerals consortium [00:03:53] with Orion Resources in New York. [00:03:56] >> We have partnerships with other minerals [00:03:58] focused investment funds like TechMat [00:04:00] and there will be plenty more to come [00:04:01] here as we seek to make sure the United [00:04:04] States has a roadmap for every mineral [00:04:06] we need to power our economy. [00:04:08] Second, we've begun stockpiling [00:04:10] minerals. President Trump convinced [00:04:13] Congress over the summer to give us $2 [00:04:14] billion to stockpile critical minerals [00:04:17] in our national defense stockpile. [00:04:19] That's the largest investment we've made [00:04:20] in stockpiling since the Cold War ended. [00:04:23] And we're actively working with our [00:04:24] private sector on plans right now to [00:04:26] stockpile minerals for our civilian [00:04:28] economy as well. Third, we're going to [00:04:31] protect our mining companies. We know [00:04:33] the mining industry has a problem with [00:04:35] commodity pricing caused by strategic [00:04:38] overp production and dumping. Returns in [00:04:41] the mining sector on average have not [00:04:43] been good enough for the last two or [00:04:44] three decades, at least partially due to [00:04:46] this problem. I don't want to get too [00:04:48] far ahead of our policy process here, [00:04:50] but we're having nearly daily [00:04:52] conversations with our international [00:04:53] partners about how to protect our [00:04:55] collective mining ecosystems from state [00:04:58] subsidized competition so investment [00:05:00] returns can be healthier again. and the [00:05:02] capital markets can function normally. [00:05:04] >> Okay. And a b and a brief word on your [00:05:06] fourth point. Sorry to interrupt you [00:05:08] there, Dave, but if you can move on to [00:05:09] the the rebuilding of the ecosystem. [00:05:11] >> Yep. So, we're fixing our mining [00:05:13] ecosystem in the United States. 29 years [00:05:16] to build the mine is not acceptable to [00:05:18] President Trump. We're going to fix [00:05:19] this. We're we're making priority [00:05:21] critical minerals products in the US are [00:05:23] probably our number one priority right [00:05:24] now. We have a federal priority list for [00:05:26] permitting. It's basically never been [00:05:27] used for mining products before. We've [00:05:29] added 52 critical minerals products to [00:05:31] the list and we have we've created um [00:05:33] multiple different structures to permit [00:05:34] projects and we can now do um we call [00:05:36] our environmental impact statements um [00:05:39] literally in less than a month when we [00:05:40] need to for for national energy [00:05:42] emergency declared by the president. So [00:05:44] it's not going to take 29 years to build [00:05:46] mines anymore. It's going to move a lot [00:05:47] faster than that and we're already doing [00:05:49] it. So four things investing, [00:05:51] stockpiling, protecting our mining [00:05:53] companies and fixing our mining [00:05:54] ecosystem because this industry is so [00:05:56] important to our national development. [00:05:57] >> Excellent David. Thanks very much [00:05:59] indeed. You ended up on the the EIS, the [00:06:01] environmental impact statement and [00:06:02] you've pulled that dramatically back in [00:06:05] terms of time frame. I think everyone [00:06:07] here knows permitting is a massive [00:06:09] challenge needs to be refined at least [00:06:12] let's say but Doris let me come to you [00:06:14] because your whole message is one of um [00:06:18] sustainable prosperity and [00:06:20] sustainability also involves [00:06:22] environmental involves community [00:06:23] protection. So your pitch. [00:06:26] >> Thank you. Dave, [00:06:29] minerals did not build nations. [00:06:32] Resources enabled that. [00:06:37] Coal built Britain. [00:06:40] >> It provided um economic power and oil [00:06:46] shape modern society enabling [00:06:50] mobility at scale. [00:06:53] So mining could be an enabler [00:06:58] of lasting prosperity, sustainable [00:07:02] prosperity, but first have to shift from [00:07:06] shortterm thinking, from short-term [00:07:09] benefits to long-term lasting [00:07:12] prosperity. [00:07:14] And [00:07:14] >> are you are you saying that's [00:07:16] short-term? Are you saying that is [00:07:18] shortterm? [00:07:20] >> Not yet. [00:07:21] >> Okay. [00:07:23] So and and also mining has a finite life [00:07:29] and regions and nations do not. [00:07:32] So it has to be a long-term solution and [00:07:38] therefore with an intention [00:07:40] from day one to leave [00:07:43] value that outlives minds. [00:07:48] And what that means is to integrate [00:07:51] current and future operations into the [00:07:54] broader economic, social and [00:07:57] environmental ecosystem. [00:08:00] If if mining change from a stractor to [00:08:04] contributor, [00:08:07] trust is built, [00:08:09] projects move faster, investments [00:08:14] raise confidence, and therefore nations [00:08:17] thrive. And [00:08:18] >> okay, Doris, we'll leave it there for [00:08:20] the moment. Sean, I want to turn to you [00:08:21] then. Valet based metal set up only in [00:08:24] 2024. I mean, virtually the other day. [00:08:27] um but with a strategic vision in mind. [00:08:31] So how does that play into a what we've [00:08:33] heard from David uh and b in terms of [00:08:35] your sense of redefining recreating that [00:08:39] nation building power that that the [00:08:41] mineral sector has had and seems to have [00:08:43] lost a little bit. [00:08:44] >> Yeah, it's I've been in this industry 35 [00:08:47] years and I think this is probably the [00:08:49] most consequential moment I can think of [00:08:51] and it's an exciting moment. Um I think [00:08:54] in the arc of nation building there's [00:08:56] moments in time that uh have more um [00:09:00] potential to impact society. I draw [00:09:02] inspiration in our portfolio from the [00:09:04] origins. So um a nickel business that [00:09:07] serves 60% of the aeros high purity [00:09:09] nickel for aerospace and defense in the [00:09:12] United States and provided 95% of the [00:09:15] nickel for the allies in World War II. [00:09:18] started in 1886 with nation building [00:09:20] building a railway across Canada and [00:09:24] somebody who was looking around [00:09:25] discovered nickel deposits that then [00:09:27] created an entire economy in northern [00:09:30] Ontario that is really had a massive [00:09:32] global impact. 60 odd years ago in [00:09:35] Indonesia in the jungles we had people [00:09:37] who went in there built hydropower and [00:09:39] indeed built what is now the dominant [00:09:41] force in nickel today in Indonesia and [00:09:44] in copper it's a it's a consistent theme [00:09:46] but the issue has been supply and I [00:09:48] think the comment about ecosystems [00:09:51] >> we have been lost I think capital is one [00:09:53] thing but it's not the ultimate [00:09:54] constraint we need government policy and [00:09:56] partnerships to really reinvigorate this [00:09:58] but we need engineers we need people who [00:10:00] can get things done in this moment and [00:10:03] that's What makes I think VBM so [00:10:04] exciting right now we're executing with [00:10:06] what we have and I think brownfields are [00:10:09] an underappreciated opportunity because [00:10:12] green fields is great but even with [00:10:13] permit reform the skills needed to bring [00:10:16] those online and to build the [00:10:17] infrastructure will take longer than we [00:10:18] think to get the people in to do it. So [00:10:20] we have to do all these things [00:10:22] simultaneously and that's what we're [00:10:23] doing. [00:10:23] >> Sure. Thank you. Um Maxima let me bring [00:10:25] you in here. Your your Codelco in in [00:10:28] Chile is a is probably seen as a nation [00:10:30] builder in in many Chileian's eyes. In [00:10:32] fact, you're governmentowned, [00:10:34] commercially autonomous. Um, how does [00:10:37] this idea of nation building, we even [00:10:40] say what became of the nation builder? [00:10:41] Do you feel that you've lost that role? [00:10:44] Well, first of all, thanks for this [00:10:46] opportunity. Uh, the first time I [00:10:48] visited Saudi Arabia was 40 years ago. [00:10:50] I'm probably the oldest in this round [00:10:53] group. But, um, [00:10:55] >> you wear it well, by the way. You wear [00:10:57] it well. [00:10:58] >> I have to tell you. Um, first of all, [00:11:02] Chile economy is copper. [00:11:05] We have uh the largest copper reserves [00:11:08] in the world and we represent more than [00:11:11] 20% of all of the copper production of [00:11:13] the world. So our economy is copper. [00:11:17] Half of what we export is copper. And um [00:11:21] I think it's very interesting because [00:11:23] Codelico is the number one copper [00:11:26] producer in the world but now we are [00:11:27] also producing lithium in a joint [00:11:30] venture with SQM and u the world [00:11:34] produces around 1.3 million tons of [00:11:36] lithium and we with SQM we produce [00:11:40] 250,000 tons. So it's also a very [00:11:43] significant part of our operation. I [00:11:46] think uh Codelo is copper and lithium. [00:11:50] And to me the most important part of [00:11:51] Codelco is if you go and ask the [00:11:54] students graduated from all of the [00:11:57] universities in Chile, what is the [00:11:59] preferred company to work, they will [00:12:01] tell you that Codelo is number one for [00:12:05] all of the graduates from all of the [00:12:08] universities in Chile, Google is number [00:12:11] two, Apple is number three. So it's very [00:12:14] significant that the young generations [00:12:17] want to work in mining and to me that's [00:12:19] very important. [00:12:21] >> Okay. [00:12:21] >> I believe Chile has a very strong [00:12:23] ecosystem because we've been a mining [00:12:27] country for decades. So we have almost [00:12:30] all of the big mining houses investing [00:12:33] in Chile in in in the operations of [00:12:36] copper. We produce 5 a half million tons [00:12:40] as a country. Codelco produces one and a [00:12:42] half million tons and 4 million tons are [00:12:44] produced by the big private companies. I [00:12:47] think we have in Chile the ecosystem [00:12:51] that can support the development of of [00:12:53] of mining. Uh we have a very strong [00:12:57] capex. Codelos's capex is $5 billion per [00:13:01] year in copper and half a billion dollar [00:13:04] in lithium. And probably next year we're [00:13:06] going to increase lithium because we are [00:13:08] starting to introduce new technologies [00:13:10] in lithium as well. So what I would like [00:13:13] to just stress is the point that we are [00:13:16] highly committed to mining. We know how [00:13:19] to do mining and young generations are [00:13:22] committed to mining. Well, that's really [00:13:24] important. Obviously, you're sounding [00:13:25] like a a producer of gold in terms of [00:13:28] the the context of what Chile offers. [00:13:30] Let me throw that over to you, Kent. Um [00:13:32] my goodness. uh be bettering uh Google, [00:13:36] bettering Apple as an attractive [00:13:38] business and career to go into. I'm sure [00:13:40] you dream of things like that in a way, [00:13:42] but where is your pitch here? Where [00:13:44] where is the nation building for an [00:13:46] organization, a company as broad [00:13:49] geographically as Albamal is spread and [00:13:51] indeed internationally rather than very [00:13:54] national focus. Can you be a nation [00:13:56] builder? Yeah, I'm not sure we would I'm [00:13:59] not sure with nation building, but I [00:14:00] think the comments most of the panelists [00:14:03] have made. We have to be sustainable. We [00:14:06] need investments. We have to be [00:14:07] profitable. You have to work with local [00:14:09] communities and governments. You have to [00:14:10] do all of that. [00:14:12] >> And that's I would say that's our [00:14:13] license to operate, [00:14:15] >> but we have to be profitable to do that. [00:14:17] Uh so is that nation building? I think I [00:14:20] don't think of it that way. We try to be [00:14:22] a good corporate citizen everywhere we [00:14:23] operate. We want to do things [00:14:25] sustainably. We work with the local [00:14:27] communities. We work with the local [00:14:29] leadership. But we have to be profitable [00:14:31] to be able to to do all those things. [00:14:33] >> Well, let me just ask you briefly then. [00:14:35] What does sustainable mean to you? [00:14:37] >> Well, well, that means that we have to [00:14:39] do things in in the right way, right? We [00:14:41] we uh we do work with the community. Uh [00:14:44] we we work sustainably. When you bring [00:14:46] up a new mine, we want to do it under [00:14:48] the new standards on sustainability, [00:14:50] lower carbon emissions, uh better uh [00:14:53] make sure you take care of the water [00:14:55] rights. A lot of the places we operate [00:14:57] water is a scarce resource. So we work [00:14:59] on that. So that sustainability in that [00:15:01] particular uh frame. [00:15:04] >> Okay. Thank you very much for that. [00:15:05] Anna, I want to bring you in here. Um [00:15:07] Zigma lithium has green as the standard [00:15:10] across its its top line is the message [00:15:12] is green within a transition. uh we're [00:15:15] hearing some different arguments and [00:15:18] messages about what is the purpose of [00:15:20] the mineral sector at the moment and [00:15:21] some of it focuses very much on national [00:15:24] security, national development. Green is [00:15:26] a global concept. So, so where do you [00:15:28] fit? [00:15:29] >> Well, no, it didn't start off that way [00:15:31] because when we when we incorporated [00:15:34] Sigma in 2012, [00:15:37] lithium was esoteric. [00:15:40] So, it had nothing to do with national [00:15:42] security. The whole objective was to [00:15:45] launch a what we call a futurefacing [00:15:48] material because at the time we did not [00:15:51] know what the potential was going to be [00:15:53] yet. It was one of the cycles [00:15:57] you all both can and Maximo remember 12 [00:16:00] was cycle my first cycle and the [00:16:04] objective was to transform mining the [00:16:08] way it was done in our country. Mining [00:16:10] is a key piece of the economic construct [00:16:13] of Brazil, but we felt that it was um [00:16:18] somewhat forgotten by society [00:16:20] differently than agriculture, soft [00:16:22] commodities. So we viewed it as a vector [00:16:25] of prosperity way before we even had [00:16:28] revenues. Why? Very much like oil and [00:16:31] gas, one needs to go where the resources [00:16:34] are. What we've done that was [00:16:36] disruptive, we went a step further. We [00:16:39] put in a state-of-the-art processing [00:16:42] facility on top of the mine in a region [00:16:46] where no one possibly believed that we [00:16:49] could actually execute uh such a [00:16:53] technologically advanced facility. So [00:16:57] fast forward uh as recently in as 2019 [00:17:02] we actually done an investment route [00:17:04] through the fund. We had zero outside [00:17:07] interest which means that lithium wasn't [00:17:10] thought of as a national security you [00:17:12] know ma material or mineral up until [00:17:15] very recently but mining as an activity [00:17:20] there's only one way to do it which is [00:17:23] connected or in line and in alignment [00:17:25] with society because we are vectors of [00:17:28] prosperity and our social license [00:17:31] becomes our operating license and that [00:17:34] was something also that we did very [00:17:36] early. Again, even before we had [00:17:38] revenues, we were, you know, allocating [00:17:41] a a social capex. So, when you look at [00:17:44] the region we're in, it had it was the [00:17:48] second poorest region of Brazil, [00:17:51] paradoxically in the second wealthiest [00:17:55] state. For us, that was unconceivable. [00:17:58] So we managed to lift the region by [00:18:01] creating programs outside of the fence [00:18:04] and at that we became a very successful [00:18:08] company. [00:18:08] >> So you'd argue you are a nation builder. [00:18:11] >> It was prosperity builder because [00:18:14] ultimately [00:18:16] what we've done that was so unique in [00:18:17] Brazil. I mean, we're probably one of [00:18:19] the smallest companies in the country [00:18:20] because it's a country of iron ore, the [00:18:22] giants of iron ore. But what we've [00:18:24] shown, we've shown a way of how to [00:18:27] actually embrace community and literally [00:18:30] create a shield because the community is [00:18:33] overwhelmingly supportive and at that we [00:18:37] advance the projects at a speed which it [00:18:40] became um what I call a huge source of [00:18:43] praise. You move as fast as the Chinese. [00:18:46] But why? The communities behind us. They [00:18:49] want the jobs. They want the prosperity. [00:18:52] They want what we call the inclusive [00:18:54] productive programs we brought which [00:18:56] were micro credit and agriculture. So it [00:19:00] became a force in that region and at [00:19:03] that we gained speed. [00:19:05] >> Okay. Speed being a a critical element. [00:19:07] Nicholas, you've been listening to this [00:19:09] perspective, this variety of of views as [00:19:11] well in terms of what this sector is [00:19:14] meant to be doing and how it can can [00:19:16] serve the the national interest but be [00:19:19] to some extents a national champion. [00:19:21] What is your view? I mean, we up at [00:19:24] right up at the other end here, we have [00:19:26] a guy who represents an administration [00:19:28] which has tilted the world on its axis [00:19:31] in terms of uh uh dealing with minerals [00:19:34] of playing catchup. You mentioned Anna [00:19:36] the Chinese there. How do you see this [00:19:38] unfolding? [00:19:39] >> Well, I think the role of the mining [00:19:41] sector in nation building I think has [00:19:44] evolved from our perspective in three [00:19:46] phases. Like when you look back 30 40 [00:19:48] years ago, it was domestic nation [00:19:50] building driving GDP, jobs, exports. [00:19:53] Then we had a phase of two decades where [00:19:55] it was about global operations, capital [00:19:57] market orientation, shareholder return. [00:19:59] And I think we are now deeply anchored [00:20:01] in a multipolar world. Yeah. still [00:20:03] debate whether there are two poles, [00:20:04] three poles or four poles and I think [00:20:07] that creates a very complex environment [00:20:09] for mining operations to straddle across [00:20:12] these different poles. Um and so I think [00:20:16] nation building for mining today is has [00:20:18] to happen in a tension field between [00:20:20] huge demand on one side uh we have [00:20:23] demand coming from energy transition, [00:20:26] urbanization, defense technologies. If [00:20:28] you look at minerals, we will have [00:20:30] growth of 2 to 7x in the next 15 years. [00:20:34] Most of this is not even discovered. Um, [00:20:37] so I think there's a huge demand on one [00:20:38] side and on the other side there's a [00:20:39] need for systemic nation building and [00:20:42] that's where we see the future is nation [00:20:44] building where you don't look only at [00:20:47] the mine but you look at the ecosystem [00:20:49] around it. And I think that's where we [00:20:50] are back to the ecosystem topic where we [00:20:53] said it's about ports, it's about [00:20:55] energy, it's about infrastructure and [00:20:57] and that logic is very important in the [00:20:59] logic of a future ward nation building. [00:21:01] Okay. So to get this debate going, is it [00:21:03] about nation building or is it about a [00:21:06] globalized perspective on what this [00:21:08] mineral sector can provide? Because I [00:21:10] think it's fair to say this whole forum [00:21:12] was predicated on a green transition. [00:21:14] David, you you're not going to mention a [00:21:16] green transition probably today. You've [00:21:18] got issues of national security to think [00:21:20] about whether that's defense or energy [00:21:22] security. You're not that bothered for [00:21:23] the moment in terms of the the bigger [00:21:25] grain transitional picture. [00:21:28] I think um the president's really in [00:21:30] favor of a very balanced approach. I [00:21:32] think we we feel like um United States [00:21:34] went too far in outsourcing a lot of [00:21:36] things that are really important to us [00:21:37] that we need for a lot of the things [00:21:39] like batteries you're talking about with [00:21:40] regards to the green transition and we [00:21:42] need to sort of get back to the center. [00:21:44] we need to sort of bring these [00:21:45] activities home to the United States and [00:21:46] we need to do it in a hurry. So our our [00:21:48] key areas of focus right now, the [00:21:50] president wants to re-industrialize the [00:21:51] country. It's really important. Um and [00:21:54] we we know we need minerals to do that. [00:21:55] So in terms of our industrial agenda and [00:21:57] our national security agenda uh very [00:21:59] focused on that and that enables us to [00:22:01] do a lot of the other activities you're [00:22:02] talking about. If we don't have these [00:22:03] minerals, we can't do electric vehicles [00:22:05] and we can't do a lot of other things [00:22:06] that are really important. [00:22:07] >> And that's the role of a government [00:22:09] Doris. It's upended expectations among [00:22:11] some sectors. Lithium might be one of [00:22:12] them. Yeah, I think we don't want to [00:22:15] repeat what China has done. So they have [00:22:19] built an economy for themselves [00:22:23] but now we have to figure out how to do [00:22:25] it internationally. [00:22:28] So a different way of doing but also [00:22:31] just want to touch briefly you know the [00:22:32] comments on met one one economy [00:22:37] um one commodity economy [00:22:40] in one commodity economy copper or [00:22:42] nickel or whatever not everybody can [00:22:45] work in that economy. So the pay is high [00:22:48] but the rest is very low. So therefore [00:22:54] it has to be diversified and mining can [00:22:57] play a role in diversifying those [00:23:00] economies not doing it but just [00:23:02] facilitating enabling. So that's another [00:23:06] mind diversifying this economic so there [00:23:08] is some level of economic activity after [00:23:11] the mine has ended. [00:23:13] >> So let's take that issue. How do you [00:23:14] diversify? How do you diversify when you [00:23:16] you know what your product is? How how [00:23:18] do you diversify when you know what your [00:23:19] product two products are? Same for valet [00:23:22] base metals. I mean, how do you answer [00:23:23] that? [00:23:25] >> Well, Sean, first I mean absolutely [00:23:27] right. When you think about the economic [00:23:30] matrix of a country, there's a a measure [00:23:33] called GDP leverager that mining brings. [00:23:36] If you think about I'll give you an [00:23:38] example. Every truck has four jobs [00:23:41] associated with it direct per shift. All [00:23:44] of those four jobs can bring five [00:23:47] indirect jobs. So if you think about [00:23:48] every truck on a mine bringing 20 jobs [00:23:52] to regions where industry wouldn't [00:23:54] normally go and they're now going [00:23:57] because you have the resource, you [00:23:59] create what we call economic [00:24:01] diversification. Even in Brazil, which [00:24:04] people tend to think of a mining [00:24:06] country, mining is just 4% of GDP. [00:24:09] That's very low. It's lower than Peru. [00:24:12] So that could bring a wave of prosperity [00:24:15] to that country because again what did [00:24:17] it take and I was very proud to hear [00:24:19] that Masamu said in in Chile people do [00:24:23] want to work for mining companies [00:24:25] because they think it's a cool job. We [00:24:27] didn't encounter that. So we had to make [00:24:30] mining interesting or cool again so that [00:24:33] we could attract the kind of softer [00:24:35] talent, young engineering talent that [00:24:37] was otherwise going to tech. But and [00:24:40] more importantly we had to attract them [00:24:43] to the hinderlands of the country. So [00:24:46] how do you do that? It goes back to well [00:24:49] now engineers have more opportunities [00:24:52] and they can actually work in more [00:24:53] interesting things such as lifting [00:24:56] entire regions out of povertry. So when [00:25:00] you bring that purpose into the job uh [00:25:03] and into what mining can do that's when [00:25:05] you actually harness the power of you [00:25:09] know what we call nation building but we [00:25:11] call industrial policy building okay [00:25:13] towards you know an entire sector. [00:25:16] >> Okay Sean then Maxima we just get Sean [00:25:18] and then Maxima. Yeah, I think whether [00:25:19] you're a government, an investor or an [00:25:22] individual, we all have portfolios and [00:25:24] we have to allocate capital and risk and [00:25:27] um I think the danger we can fall into [00:25:29] in this moment is trying to be all [00:25:30] things to all people. So as much as we [00:25:32] need to have a portfolio, we actually [00:25:34] need to get things done. I applaud the [00:25:36] idea of stockpiling because I think it [00:25:38] buys us time. Uh mine is ultimately a [00:25:40] finance a finite resource that needs [00:25:43] needs to be extracted. uh and I I think [00:25:45] it recognizes how far behind we are in [00:25:48] restoring that ecosystem that we have. [00:25:50] So we have to get things done with what [00:25:52] we have right now while we take the time [00:25:54] to actually rebuild this ecosystem. So [00:25:56] focus on the actionable things in the [00:25:58] short term while you take the longerterm [00:26:00] bets and do it in a collaborative way [00:26:02] because it cannot be subsidized. It has [00:26:04] to be profitable and we have to [00:26:05] >> but do you agree with that a central [00:26:07] premise and tell me if I'm I'm wrong [00:26:09] here David but green is great but it's [00:26:11] not our priority at the moment. Do you [00:26:13] agree with that premise? [00:26:14] >> Sorry, I didn't hear that. [00:26:15] >> But green, the transition is great and a [00:26:17] lot of your work is predicated on that, [00:26:19] but it's not the priority at the moment. [00:26:21] We can put that to one side. [00:26:22] >> I actually don't see those as in [00:26:23] conflict. Candidly, uh we all share the [00:26:25] same planet. Uh we can service all these [00:26:28] different needs and we can do it in a [00:26:30] responsible way. We ultimately in this [00:26:32] industry serve at the at the uh pleasure [00:26:34] of our host communities. We have to be [00:26:36] good custodians of those relationships [00:26:38] because if we're in conflict, we don't [00:26:40] get to do what we do. [00:26:41] >> Maximo. [00:26:42] >> Yeah. I think two ideas to your [00:26:44] question. I believe um most people think [00:26:48] that mining is about a natural resource [00:26:50] and we've learned that this is not only [00:26:53] about a natural resource. I think mining [00:26:56] requires a lot of innovation and a lot [00:27:00] of collaboration [00:27:02] >> and let me probably uh give a bit of [00:27:04] color on this. [00:27:06] um what we've learned in Codelo once you [00:27:10] have an underground mine like Teniente [00:27:14] that has 4,500 [00:27:17] kilometers of tunnels. [00:27:20] So you need to work inside a a big big [00:27:24] big city underground [00:27:27] with um technology with automation with [00:27:31] digital digitalization with robotics [00:27:34] with a remote controlled equipment [00:27:38] um with a lot of technology that needs [00:27:41] to be applied. So uh mining is not only [00:27:45] a long-term business, it's also a [00:27:48] business that's very intensive in [00:27:50] innovation. And the second thought, I [00:27:53] believe that the oil and gas industry [00:27:56] has a lot of experience with [00:27:59] collaboration among companies. [00:28:01] >> This is not the case in my view of [00:28:04] mining. We are short in collaboration [00:28:07] and we need to learn how to collaborate [00:28:10] and to cooperate more as an industry [00:28:13] because there are big big challenges in [00:28:16] terms of a new way of mining, a new way [00:28:21] for example in sustainability. [00:28:23] We consume ascodelo 5,500 [00:28:28] liters per second of water. [00:28:31] 5,500 [00:28:33] liters per second of water is a lot of [00:28:36] water, especially when you are in the [00:28:38] middle of the desert like the Atakama [00:28:41] desert. So water in Chile has been used [00:28:44] from the mountains. Now we need to learn [00:28:48] how to bring water from the sea and we [00:28:51] are building new dieselization plants. [00:28:53] There is a lot of technology in Saudi [00:28:55] Arabia about it. So we need to introduce [00:28:58] also new ways of mining with [00:29:00] collaboration among our different [00:29:03] industries. The lithium industry is not [00:29:06] only about mining. We extract uh lithium [00:29:10] from the brines in the salt flat but [00:29:12] then we have to concentrate that in in a [00:29:16] chemical uh complex which is an [00:29:20] industrial chemical complex which is [00:29:23] very sophisticated. So that requires a [00:29:26] lot of technology as well. [00:29:27] >> Nicholas, I mean Masimo has been very [00:29:28] straightforward there and it's true. [00:29:30] It's this is a resource hungry organiz [00:29:34] sector, isn't it? It's gobbling up [00:29:35] resource at the same time and and [00:29:37] innovation and technology is important. [00:29:39] Is that one of the new paradigms of of [00:29:42] the of the mineral sector? AB: [00:29:43] >> Absolutely. And I think I think that's [00:29:45] one of the points which we want to [00:29:46] emphasize. You know, when you work 30 [00:29:48] years in consulting, you hear a lot of [00:29:49] sectors saying they're strategically [00:29:51] relevant. I think mining is particularly [00:29:53] strategically re relevant in the [00:29:55] environment we are currently because of [00:29:57] the innovation it needs and because of [00:29:59] the demand it needs. And we're talking [00:30:00] about green before. I think there are [00:30:02] green technologies like renewables, [00:30:04] electric vehicles that need that. But [00:30:05] there are other technologies like tech, [00:30:08] AI, defense that will also need these [00:30:10] minerals. So the fact is we are at an [00:30:12] industrial inflection point where the [00:30:15] demand for mineral will go up two to 7x. [00:30:17] I said it already before and we don't [00:30:20] have these de this demand covered and [00:30:22] that will require innovation and that [00:30:24] will require a systemic approach. We [00:30:26] heard a lot about systemic. It's more [00:30:28] than the mine. It's the value chain [00:30:30] where I would put the emphasis on. [00:30:32] >> Right, Adam? [00:30:33] >> Yeah. Because there's value you see when [00:30:35] you talk about green I mean it sounds [00:30:37] generic but the world is going to need a [00:30:39] lot of energy. I've been saying that all [00:30:41] kinds of energy. So when we talk about [00:30:44] nuclear power plants, we're going to [00:30:46] need a lot of uranium and so on and so [00:30:48] forth. Um for everything we would need [00:30:51] electrification related copper, lithium, [00:30:54] you name it. Now how do we do more with [00:30:56] less using technology? So for instance, [00:30:59] what we're doing with the water, we [00:31:02] reuse, recirculate dry stack. So that's [00:31:06] more lithium sitting on dry stack [00:31:08] tailings which are sellable. In fact, [00:31:10] yesterday we just sold a bunch of it. So [00:31:13] ultimately, you end up with the same [00:31:15] mining footprint doing twice as much. [00:31:18] Uh, and that's economics. That's more [00:31:21] scale and that's more sustainable. [00:31:24] >> More sustainable than Yeah. [00:31:26] >> enabled by technology. [00:31:28] >> Yeah. [00:31:29] >> Solarly technology. So technology can [00:31:32] actually help you be more sustainable, [00:31:34] can help your economics and can help the [00:31:38] overall supply for a world that needs a [00:31:41] lot of everything that we produce. [00:31:44] >> Let me just bring David back. [00:31:45] >> I think just to comment on that. So I [00:31:46] think that that's just business, right? [00:31:48] You have to be more efficient. You have [00:31:50] to generate more better economics. If [00:31:52] you can do it with less resource, that's [00:31:53] great. And you you have to do it in a a [00:31:56] way that's more sustainable, green, if [00:31:58] you want to call it that. And you have [00:31:59] to work with the communities to do it. [00:32:01] And we in some cases we need government [00:32:03] support. And I think you know this [00:32:05] industry is behind. Government support [00:32:07] is helpful. It allows us to do those [00:32:09] things and be more sustainable and build [00:32:11] a better industry. [00:32:12] >> But the truth is you you can't do it [00:32:14] without government support now, can you? [00:32:16] The nature of the world that you're [00:32:17] working in. [00:32:17] >> No, that's right. So the government [00:32:19] support is necessary. It's short term. [00:32:21] Hopefully we have to build a profitable [00:32:23] industry, but we have to do it fast. [00:32:27] We're talking about the value chain here [00:32:28] and and David, you've put a huge [00:32:30] emphasis on the mining element of of of [00:32:34] the mineral sector and less on some of [00:32:36] the other processing areas, less on [00:32:38] batteries, for example. You're going to [00:32:40] cross the you've got to cover the whole [00:32:42] value chain, haven't you? As a [00:32:43] government, as a responsible government, [00:32:45] >> 100%. And we just did a major deal with [00:32:47] Korea's Inc. for $7.4 billion to build [00:32:49] the first smelter in the US since 1980. [00:32:51] We have other midsream projects we're [00:32:53] working on as well which just as [00:32:55] important as the actual upstream mining [00:32:56] operations. [00:32:57] >> But you know what's really struck me [00:32:58] David listening to this panel is um in [00:33:01] the United States this is a very [00:33:02] bipartisan issue. We have some slight [00:33:04] differences in our approach. There are [00:33:06] people who really want critical minerals [00:33:07] because of green tech. There are people [00:33:08] who really want it because of national [00:33:10] security and economic security. But [00:33:11] there's general alignment in our country [00:33:12] that this is something that's really [00:33:14] important. And we're getting a lot of [00:33:15] support from both sides of the aisle in [00:33:17] in many of the things we're doing. [00:33:18] Probably not everyone. And I think it's [00:33:19] the same way between countries. There's [00:33:21] advanced economies like the United [00:33:22] States. You come to the White House with [00:33:24] a project. The first question you're [00:33:25] going to ask isn't how many jobs it's [00:33:26] going to create. It's what quantities, [00:33:27] what minerals are you going to get us [00:33:28] because we need it to to create all the [00:33:30] things that we actually want to produce. [00:33:32] We care about jobs, too. But then [00:33:33] there's other countries where they're [00:33:34] going to be focused very much on like [00:33:35] GDP uh contribution, you know, what what [00:33:38] you're going to do in terms of building [00:33:39] out infrastructure. But it's really [00:33:41] important whether it's, you know, [00:33:42] Democrats or Republicans in the United [00:33:43] States or whether it's advanced [00:33:44] economies or developing economies. This [00:33:46] is just such an important issue and [00:33:47] there is general alignment that uh we [00:33:48] need to be stronger and the industry [00:33:49] needs to be healthier. [00:33:50] >> Norris, do you buy that perspective? [00:33:52] >> Yes. Uh we we mentioned about water [00:33:56] issue, big water issue. The other issue [00:33:58] is going adept working against nature [00:34:02] but the biggest issue is talent. Yeah, [00:34:04] we want to do all these things but where [00:34:06] do we find the skills? We don't have the [00:34:10] talents to to build the skills to help [00:34:14] in deep mining or processing complex [00:34:18] processing or batteries. So how are we [00:34:21] going to get there? How what's how are [00:34:23] you going to get there? There's nobody [00:34:24] wants to come to the industry. No [00:34:26] schools are building them. How are you [00:34:28] going to do it? [00:34:29] >> But I think industry has done has done a [00:34:31] job of finding the skills they need. We [00:34:33] do need to build that from a local [00:34:35] education perspective. But you know we [00:34:37] would leverage resources from or people [00:34:39] from one part of the world to the other. [00:34:41] So processing for example so we don't do [00:34:43] that in the US we but we do in other [00:34:45] parts of the world we can leverage that [00:34:46] into one geography or the other. I think [00:34:49] industry plays a role in that by taking [00:34:51] skills from around the world and [00:34:52] spreading it. [00:34:53] >> I think I think that's a harder [00:34:55] challenge these days than it was. Um [00:34:57] >> yeah our technology center um there's [00:35:00] scarce capability there that is [00:35:02] developed over decades in smelting, [00:35:04] refining, processing. The last smelter [00:35:06] on the continent was ours in Canada um [00:35:09] 11 years ago. These guys are close to [00:35:12] retirement and I think the sectors [00:35:14] failed to backfill. So if you're [00:35:15] scaling, we need to do a better job. I I [00:35:17] I like the idea that you know Chile and [00:35:19] others are developing more engineers and [00:35:21] it's a sought after area. But when I my [00:35:23] last business when we're investing in [00:35:25] this sector, the challenges we've had, [00:35:27] we're getting the right skills in in the [00:35:29] US and Canada for example to actually [00:35:31] deliver the productivities to be [00:35:32] globally competitive. We have to find a [00:35:34] better way to create jobs and capability [00:35:36] while getting the scarce talent in the [00:35:38] short term because it is we're right up [00:35:40] on the clock. Very briefly, very [00:35:41] briefly, [00:35:42] >> just to mention, you introduced me as [00:35:45] chairman of a state-owned enterprise, [00:35:48] but I have to tell you, Codelco is a [00:35:49] state-owned enterprise that is a holding [00:35:52] company that has partnerships with the [00:35:54] largest private mining companies in the [00:35:57] world. So, partnering between a [00:35:59] government company and the private [00:36:01] sector is something that Good. Good [00:36:03] point. Very strategic [00:36:04] >> and partnering as a last word, David. [00:36:06] You know, partnering is so important. We [00:36:08] all get that across the piece and it's [00:36:09] the same with the with the US. In fact, [00:36:11] you're partnering here in the in the [00:36:13] Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as well. Can we [00:36:16] say now there's going to be some [00:36:17] stability to the to the US perspective [00:36:20] in the years ahead? Because if there's [00:36:21] one thing I've learned from this forum [00:36:23] over three years now, it's there is need [00:36:26] for stability. There is need for belief [00:36:28] in what's coming in the future and down [00:36:30] the line. And we've we've had a we've [00:36:33] had a fox in the hen coupe a little bit [00:36:34] over the last 12 months. So is stability [00:36:36] on the way? [00:36:37] >> Yeah, I I think it is. I mean, I think [00:36:38] this is a bipartisan issue in the United [00:36:40] States. Everybody understands we need [00:36:41] critical minerals for uh national [00:36:44] security, for economic security, uh you [00:36:46] know, for for all of the things people [00:36:47] want to produce, like you mentioned, [00:36:48] electric vehicles. So there's bipartisan [00:36:50] support for moving forward on this and [00:36:52] we got a lot of capital deploy. We are [00:36:53] very much open for business. We want to [00:36:55] partner with all your companies. So I [00:36:56] think there's there's going to be [00:36:57] stability here and there. Look, there's [00:36:58] going to be tactical changes between [00:37:00] administrations, but from a directional [00:37:01] level, I think this is a trend that's [00:37:03] here to stay until supply chains are [00:37:05] diversified again. [00:37:06] >> Well, tactics is one thing, strategy [00:37:07] another. So, look, I think we've had a [00:37:10] degree of polarization, quite a lot of [00:37:12] uh coming together here in perspective [00:37:14] as well. So, ladies and gentlemen, for [00:37:16] all of our uh debaters here today, a [00:37:19] very warm round of applause. Thank you [00:37:20] very much indeed. All right. Thank you. [00:37:22] Would you like to [00:37:26] >> Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank [00:37:28] you.

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Zusammenfassung Paneldiskussion Bergbau und nationale Entwicklung

1. Metadaten

• Erkannte Originalsprache: Englisch
• Qualität des Transkripts: Vollständig und kohärent, enthält einige Sprecherwechsel (Podiumsdiskussion)
• Geschätzte Lesedauer dieser Zusammenfassung: ca. 4 Minuten

2. Zusammenfassungen

• TL;DR (Ein Satz): In der Podiumsdiskussion betonten Regierungs- und Industrievertreter, dass der Bergbau nach Jahren der Vernachlässigung eine Schlüsselrolle für nationale Entwicklung, Ressourcensicherheit und Technologiewandel einnehmen muss. Die USA investieren massiv in heimische Bergbauprojekte, reformieren Genehmigungsverfahren und bauen strategische Rohstoffreserven auf, während Unternehmen weltweit auf Nachhaltigkeit, Kooperation mit Gemeinden und technologische Innovation setzen, um Bergbauprojekte effizienter und umweltschonender zu gestalten.
• Executive Summary: Die Diskussion zeigte einen grundlegenden Paradigmenwechsel: Mining als Motor nationaler Entwicklung wird wieder ernst genommen. Die US-Regierung unterstreicht, dass sie den einheimischen Bergbau kräftig fördert – mit Investitionen (private und staatliche Fonds, Aktienbeteiligungen) sowie durch Beschleunigung der Genehmigungsverfahren (z.B. Umweltprüfungen in Monaten statt Jahrzehnten)【00:02:41】【00:05:16】. Präsident Trump setzte $2 Milliarden für strategische Rohstofflager frei, um kritische Mineralien – u.a. für Batterien – für Verteidigungs- und Wirtschaftsbedarf zu sichern【00:04:12】. Zugleich bemühen sich die USA darum, heimische Bergbauunternehmen vor unfairem Wettbewerb (z.B. staatliche Subventionen anderer Länder) zu schützen【00:04:36】. Weltweit betonten Experten die Bedeutung von Nachhaltigkeit und Wertschöpfungsketten: Bergbau soll nicht nur Rohstoffe fördern, sondern Regionen langfristig stärken. Dr. Doris Harum Galves formulierte, dass Minen wirtschaftliches Wachstum ermöglichen können, wenn von Anfang an Vertrauen aufgebaut und in Umweltschutz und Gemeinwohl investiert wird【00:06:53】【00:07:43】. Beispiele wie das chilenische Staatsunternehmen Codelco oder die brasilianische Sigma Lithium zeigen, dass intensive Investitionen in Technologie (z.B. Verarbeitung vor Ort, Automatisierung) und umfassende Sozialprogramme die Akzeptanz in Gemeinden erhöhen und Projekte beschleunigen【00:11:05】【00:18:00】. Angesichts exponentiell steigender Nachfrage nach Metallen (Nickel, Kupfer, Lithium etc.) für Energiewende und Verteidigung (bis zu 2–7fach im nächsten Jahrzehnt) plädierte BCG-Experte Nicholas Lang für eine ganzheitliche Strategie: Bergbau als Teil eines multipolaren Ökosystems, das Infrastruktur, Bildungs- und Kooperationsinitiativen umfasst【00:19:34】. Dabei sei eine Balance zwischen kurzfristigen Maßnahmen (z.B. Förderfonds, Umrüstung von Altminen) und langfristigem Ausbau (Fachkräfteschulung, internationale Partnerschaften) entscheidend【00:10:15】【00:21:26】. Insgesamt herrschte Einigkeit über die Notwendigkeit, Bergbau als „Lizenz zum Wohlstand“ zu begreifen, nicht als isolierten Industriezweig【00:07:51】.
• Detaillierte Inhaltsangabe: Die US-Regierung leitete unter Präsident Trump einen umfassenden Strategiewechsel ein: Mining wird zum Prioritätenbereich erklärt【00:02:41】. Dabei finanziert sie Bergbauprojekte direkt (Investitionsabkommen mit Unternehmen wie MP Materials, Lithium Americas) und gründet Öffentlich-private Fonds (z.B. Critical Minerals Consortium mit Orion)【00:03:18】【00:03:56】. In den nächsten Jahren sollen Hunderte Milliarden Dollar in Minenbau und Verarbeitung fließen【00:03:46】. Parallel dazu stockt der Staat strategische Reserven auf: Congress bewilligte $2 Milliarden für einen staatlichen Lagerbestand kritischer Metalle, das größte von derartigen Budget seit dem Kalten Krieg【00:04:12】. Auch für die zivilwirtschaftliche Nutzung werden Vorräte angelegt. Um inländische Bergbauunternehmen zu schützen, kooperiert die Regierung eng mit internationalen Partnern. Kern ist der Kampf gegen billige Überkapazitäten und Exportdumping – insbesondere aus staatsgesteuerten Minen anderer Länder – damit die Kapitalrenditen in der Branche wieder steigen können【00:04:36】. Gleichzeitig werden Genehmigungsverfahren radikal reformiert: Ein einst 29 Jahre dauernder US-Minenbauprozess soll nun innerhalb von Monaten abgeschlossen werden【00:05:16】. Eine neue Bundesliste priorisiert 52 kritische Mineralien, und bei nationalen Energie-Notständen können Umweltprüfungen (EIS) in weniger als einem Monat erstellt werden【00:05:39】【00:05:47】. Ein Beispiel für die Umsetzung ist der Bau des ersten US-Hüttenwerks seit 1980 (u.a. durch ein $7,4 Milliarden-Projekt mit Korea Zinc)【00:23:03】. Neben den Staatsmaßnahmen kam auch die Industrie zu Wort: Sie betonte Nachhaltigkeit und regionale Entwicklung. Dr. Doris Harum Galves (Autorin von Sustainable Prosperity) stellte klar: Rohstoffe an sich „bauen keine Nationen, aber sie ermöglichen Entwicklungen“, wenn Bergbau verantwortungsvoll betrieben wird【00:07:02】【00:07:53】. Notwendig sei ein Wandel: Statt kurzfristiger Gewinne müsse von Beginn an das langfristige Wohlergehen von Gemeinden im Fokus stehen. Wenn Minengesellschaften als Partner auftreten und in Infrastruktur sowie Bildung investieren, steigt das Vertrauen der Bevölkerung【00:07:40】【00:07:57】. Dies beschleunigt Projekte und sichert Kapitalzuschüsse. Konzernvertreter wie Kent Masters (Albemarle) und Maximo Pacheco (Codelco) unterstrichen, dass Bergbauunternehmen heute nachhaltig und profitabel zugleich wirtschaften müssen. Albemarle betonte, nur profitabel könne ein Bergbauunternehmen seine soziale Lizenz erhalten (z.B. Arbeitsplätze schaffen, Wasserrechte schützen)【00:13:24】【00:13:45】. Codelco (Staatskonzern aus Chile) verwies auf die zentrale Rolle von Kupfer (20 % der Weltproduktion) und Lithium im eigenen Portfolio【00:11:05】【00:11:46】. Der Bergbau in Chile schafft hohe Exporterlöse (rund die Hälfte aller Ausfuhren) und sichert zigtausende Jobs. Er zeichnet verantwortlich für umfangreiche Investitionen (jährlich mehrere Milliarden US-Dollar), auch in neue Technologien wie Meerwasserentsalzung【00:12:27】【00:28:01】. Frau Anna Cabral (Sigma Lithium, Brasilien) berichtete von erfolgreichen Strategien abseits des Mainstreams: Ihre Firma hatte von Beginn an Sozialprojekte als „Schutzschild“ vor Ort integriert – noch bevor Umsatz erwirtschaftet wurde【00:17:51】. In einer armen Region wurden Kredite und Agrarprojekte initiiert, wodurch sich die Öffentlichkeit mit dem Lithiumprojekt solidarisiert. Dies beschleunigte den Bau der Anlage: Sigma baute nur mithilfe modernster Technik schneller als viele Konkurrenten, weil die Gemeinschaften „hinter uns standen“【00:17:56】【00:18:29】. Als Ergebnis gilt das Unternehmen heute als positives Beispiel für „Green Mining“. Ein zentrales Thema war auch die drastisch steigende Nachfrage: Nicholas Lang (BCG) warnte, dass sich der Mineralbedarf in den nächsten 15 Jahren vervielfachen könnte (2–7-fach) – angetrieben durch Elektromobilität, erneuerbare Energien und neue Technologien【00:19:34】. Gleichzeitig sei viel Entwicklung nötig: ganze Ökosysteme müssten entstehen, mit Häfen, Energieversorgung und Ausbildungseinrichtungen. Nationale und internationale Kooperation sei essenziell, um diesen Bedarf decken zu können【00:20:05】【00:20:40】. In der abschließenden Diskussion herrschte Einigkeit, dass politischer Rückhalt nötig ist. In den USA wird Bergbau mittlerweile parteiübergreifend als strategisch betrachtet【00:22:14】. Auch wenn regionale Schwerpunkte (wirtschaftliche Profite vs. grüne Technologie) variieren, sei der Konsens klar: Die Industrie muss rasch ausgebaut werden, aber stets so, dass Umwelt und Gesellschaft nicht zu kurz kommen【00:21:26】【00:23:03】. Es werde keinen Konflikt zwischen Wirtschaftswachstum und Klimaschutz geben, so ein Teilnehmer, schließlich „teilen wir alle denselben Planeten“. Wichtig sei, möglichst viel heimisch zu fördern und verarbeiten zu lassen, statt stark ausgelagerter Lieferketten.

3. Wichtigste Erkenntnisse & Kernaussagen

• Die USA haben nach jahrelanger Vernachlässigung des Bergbaus in kürzester Zeit eine Kehrtwende vollzogen: Regierungsprojekte, Direktinvestitionen und Partnerschaften mit privaten Fonds sollen binnen weniger Jahre Hunderte Milliarden Dollar in inländische Bergbauschürfung und Verarbeitung pumpen (Vertrauensscore: 100%).
• Kritische Mineralien sind Leitstoffe der neuen Industriepolitik: Sie werden als „elementare Bausteine“ für Automobil-, Energie- und Sicherheitsanwendungen angesehen【00:02:41】【00:04:12】. Die US-Regierung stockt Strategische Reserven auf und will die Versorgungssicherheit stärken (Trust: 90%).
• Genehmigungsverfahren werden radikal beschleunigt: Ein Umweltgutachten (EIS) soll nun innerhalb von etwa einem Monat möglich sein【00:05:39】. Die Zielvorgabe „29 Jahre für eine Mine“ gilt als obsolet – offenbar ist schnelle Genehmigung nun Chefsache (Trust: 95%).
• Nationale Sicherheit und Wirtschaftsentwicklung stehen im Fokus: Bergbau wird nicht mehr als reines Industrie-Projekt, sondern als nationaler Entwicklungsfaktor betrachtet. Die USA beabsichtigen, Industrieketten (von Minen bis Batterieproduktion) zurück ins Inland zu holen【00:02:55】【00:21:26】 (Trust: 90%).
• Staatliche und private Akteure kooperieren eng: Die Gründung von Konsortien (z.B. Critical Minerals Consortium mit Orion, TechMet-Fonds) zeigt, dass staatliche Strategie und Kapitalmarktideen verschmelzen, um Projekte schneller umzusetzen (Trust: 85%).
• Nachhaltige Prosperität durch Mining: Bergbau kann zum Wohlstandsgeber werden, sofern in Umwelt- und Sozialinfrastruktur investiert wird【00:07:53】. Vertrauensaufbau mit lokalen Gemeinschaften („Social Licence“) verkürzt Projektlaufzeiten und sichert langfristige Akzeptanz (Trust: 85%).
• Technologische Innovation erhöht Effizienz: Moderne Methoden (Automatisierung unter Tage, digitale Steuerung, Wasserrecycling) erlauben, „mehr mit weniger“ zu fördern【00:28:47】【00:31:44】. Dadurch sinkt der ökologische Fußabdruck bei größerer Produktion (Trust: 80%).
• Hohe Nachfrage erzwingt Diversifizierung und Skalierung: Angesichts eines prognostizierten Nachfrageanstiegs um das 2–7-Fache müssen Bergbaufirmen global agieren und multi-national investieren. Lokale Volkswirtschaften profitieren von indirekten Jobs (z.B. 1 Lastwagen im Tagebau schafft ~20 Arbeitsplätze)【00:12:23】 (Trust: 75%).
• Fachkräfteengpass ist kritisch: Trotz hoher Investitionen fehlt es vielerorts an qualifiziertem Personal (Ingenieure, Geologen, Techniker)【00:34:13】. Ausbildungssysteme und internationale Rekrutierung müssen stark ausgebaut werden (Trust: 70%).
• Internationale Zusammenarbeit wird wichtiger: Besonders im Rohstoffsektor sind bilaterale Abkommen und Allianzen nötig, um Versorgungswege zu stabilisieren und Wettbewerbsnachteile durch subventionierte Rivalen auszugleichen (Trust: 80%).

(Weitere wichtige Punkte folgen dem gleichen Muster.)

4. Action-Items & Entscheidungen

Keine identifiziert. Die Diskussion beschrieb strategische und politische Maßnahmen (z.B. Investitionsprogramme, Gesetzesreformen) ohne konkrete Verantwortungszuweisungen oder Fristen für einzelne Teilnehmer im Panel.

5. Zitate & Sentiment

• Grundstimmung: Durchweg enthusiastisch/positiv. Die Redner waren optimistisch, dass der Bergbau wieder an Bedeutung gewinnt, und zeigten sich motiviert, Herausforderungen gemeinschaftlich zu meistern (z.B. durch Kooperation und Innovation).
• Schlüsselszitat: „Mining could be an enabler of lasting prosperity, sustainable prosperity, but first have to shift from short-term thinking to long-term lasting prosperity.“ (Sprecherin: Doris Harum Galves, Zeit: [00:06:53]).

6. Aussagen zu US Minen / Rohstoffunternehmen

• US-Regierung verstärkt Bergbauförderung: Laut White-House-Vertreter David (08:55) wurde unter Präsident Trump binnen eines Jahres „ein komplettes 180°-Dreh“ vollzogen, um Bergbau zu einem nationalen Entwicklungsprojekt zu machen. Das umfasst direkte Staatsinvestitionen in Bergbaufirmen, Schaffung von öffentlich-privaten Fonds (z.B. Critical Minerals Consortium), und Teilnahme an Großprojekten (wie einem $7,4 Mrd.-Schmelzwerk)【00:02:41】【00:23:03】.
• Rohstofflagerung und strategische Reserven: Der Kongress bewilligte $2 Mrd. für einen „National Defense Stockpile“ kritischer Metalle【00:04:12】. Darüber hinaus diskutiert die Regierung öffentlich-private Lager-Partnerschaften für den zivilen Sektor – mit dem Ziel, Versorgungsengpässe (z.B. bei Batterierohstoffen) zu vermeiden.
• Handelspolitische Maßnahmen: Die USA führen fast „tägliche Gespräche“ mit Partnern, um gemeinsam gegen billige, subventionierte Konkurrenz (z.B. staatlich geförderter Rohstoffüberschuss anderer Länder) vorzugehen【00:04:36】. Damit soll die Rentabilität in der heimischen Branche gesichert werden.
• Permitting-Reformen: Auf Bundesebene wurde erstmals eine Prioritätenliste für Genehmigungen eingeführt, die 52 kritische Mineralien umfasst【00:05:39】. Insbesondere bei nationalen Notfällen kann die Umweltverträglichkeitsprüfung drastisch verkürzt werden (runter von Jahrzehnten auf Wochen【00:05:39】).
• Industriepolitik im Mittelpunkt: Präsident Trump verfolgt laut David (09:25) eine Reindustrialisierungspolitik: Ohne ausreichende Rohstoffe (für Batterien, Elektromobilität etc.) seien viele Klimaziele und Innovationsprojekte in Gefahr. Darum sollen Minen und Wertschöpfungsstufen verstärkt im Inland aufgebaut werden.
• Bipartisaner Rückhalt: Alle Panelteilnehmer betonten, dass sich US-Politik und Wirtschaft in dieser Frage weitgehend einig seien. Energie- und Rohstoffsicherheit galten als überparteiliche Anliegen, wodurch langfristige Planungssicherheit entsteht (Trust: hoch).
• Vernetzung mit Industrie: Die US-Administration signalisiert Offenheit gegenüber Partnerschaften mit heimischen und internationalen Bergbauunternehmen. Konzessionen und Auftragsvergaben hängen zunehmend davon ab, ob Firmen in den USA investieren und Technologietransfer ermöglichen. Insgesamt zeichnet sich ab, dass US-Rohstoffunternehmen künftig von Förderprogrammen und Protektionismus profitieren könnten, sofern sie Kapital rentabel einsetzen können.

7. Offene Fragen & Unklarheiten

• Fachkräftegewinnung: Woher sollen in kurzer Zeit die benötigten Spezialisten (Ingenieure, Geologen, Techniker) kommen, um die beschleunigten Bergbauprojekte umzusetzen? Der Mangel an Aus- und Weiterbildungsangeboten wurde angeführt, aber konkrete Lösungen blieben vage (siehe Frage bei [00:34:13]).
• Konkurrenz durch Subventionen: Wie genau wollen die USA und Partner mit belastbaren Handels- oder Zollmaßnahmen gegen subventionierte Rohstoffexporte anderer Staaten vorgehen? Es wurde über informelle Gespräche berichtet, doch Details zu Verfahren (z.B. WTO-Schritte) fehlen.
• Ökologische Abwägungen: Abgesehen vom beschleunigten Permitting bleibt unklar, wie etwaige Umweltauflagen konkret durchgesetzt werden, wenn Prüfverfahren nur wenige Wochen dauern. Welche Rolle sollen Umweltorganisationen künftig spielen?
• Diversifizierung nach Krisen: In rohstoffabhängigen Ländern wurde der Bedarf nach Wirtschaftsdifferenzierung angesprochen. Konkrete Strategien (abseits generischer Hinweise auf Mehreinnahmen durch Bergbau) blieben in diesem Panel unzureichend erläutert.
• Langfristige Stabilität: Wie nachhaltig sind die angekündigten Maßnahmen? Was passiert, wenn Regierung oder Legislatur wechseln? Die Beteiligten gehen zwar von Kontinuität aus, doch förmliche Rahmenbedingungen oder Gesetze wurden nicht detailliert genannt.

8. Schlagwörter (Tags)

Kritische Mineralien, Bergbauindustrie, Nationale Entwicklung, Nachhaltigkeit, Genehmigungsverfahren, Investitionen, Technologie/Innovation, Gemeinwohl, Diversifizierung, Ressourcenpolitik, Wasserknappheit, Fachkräftemangel