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User: Bro is spitting facts... edit
Bro is spitting facts... i guess 🤔 or you can explain that it is not a plot hole
Assistant: Here’s the clean, correct explanation — and no, it’s not a plot hole at all. edit
Here’s the clean, correct explanation — and no, it’s not a plot hole at all.
✅ Why Edo Nagato Looked Weak & Needed Bee’s Chakra (Even Though Edos Have “Infinite Chakra”) edit
People confuse “infinite chakra regen” with “infinite power.” They are not the same thing.
Let’s break it down clearly:
⭐ 1. Edo Tensei revives your body condition at death, NOT your chakra reserves edit
Kabuto’s Edo Tensei brings back a ninja in the same physical state they died in.
- Nagato died as a crippled, emaciated man whose body was heavily damaged from years of: - Using the Demonic Statue - Channeling Six Paths powers - Chronic illness - Life-force depletion - Rinne Rebirth (which massively drains vitality)
Edo Tensei doesn’t fix health, muscles, organs, or vitality. It just revives your corpse as-is, but immortal.
👉 So Edo Nagato starts in a low physical baseline.
⭐ 2. Edo Tensei gives infinite regen, not instant restoration edit
Think of it like this:
- Edos regenerate from injury or chakra consumption endlessly.
- But their starting stats, physical state, and base vitality remain the same.
If you summon a dehydrated marathon runner as an Edo, their body still looks dehydrated — but they will regenerate any new damage infinitely.
Nagato’s body was already permanently damaged before death.
He regenerates injuries, but Edo doesn't buff his:
- muscle strength
- vitality
- physical chakra pathways
- original max chakra output
⭐ 3. Nagato’s problem was not chakra, but physical degradation edit
Pain Nagato had a massive chakra pool, but his real body was:
- physically destroyed
- chakra pathway system weakened
- unable to handle full Rinnegan output
That’s why Edo Nagato looked like a zombie — because his corpse actually was a zombie.
⭐ 4. Why did Bee’s chakra “restore” him temporarily? edit
Because bijuu chakra revitalizes the body, not just refills chakra.
Bee’s chakra temporarily restored:
- vitality
- physical strength
- mobility
- clarity
This is why Nagato briefly returns to his “prime” appearance with red hair and muscular form — not because his chakra was empty, but because his body was healed and empowered by external chakra.
👉 Edo regen can’t do that. It only restores damage, not health.
⭐ 5. Itachi having low chakra before death doesn’t matter edit
Itachi died low on chakra, but Edo Tensei:
- gives him infinite regeneration
- restores his normal appearance
- fixes all illnesses (Kabuto manually modified him)
So Itachi was effectively patched and buffed by Kabuto.
Nagato was NOT improved in this way.
Kabuto even says:
- “Nagato’s body was too damaged for me to modify.”
⭐ Final Verdict edit
❌ Not a plot hole edit
✔ Completely consistent with Edo Tensei mechanics edit
Chakra regeneration ≠ physical restoration
Nagato needed Bee’s chakra because:
- his body was too broken to maintain Rinnegan output
- external vitality temporarily patched his body
- Edo regen can’t increase your base body stats
So the Reddit dude is right about some parts, but missing the key detail:
👉 Nagato didn’t lack chakra. He lacked a functioning body.
If you want, I can also break down:
- why Edo Madara was different
- why Kabuto couldn’t fix Nagato
- how chakra pathways affect power
Just tell me.
References edit
- ↑ "Edo Nagato explanation". ChatGPT. Retrieved 2025-11-15.