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User: Can I become an IT with digital courses?[edit | edit source]

Can I become an IT with digital courses? I met a guy once who said IT took him 2 years to learn from home from websites like udemy.

Assistant: Yes — absolutely, you can become an IT professional through digital courses, and the guy you met was not exaggerating.[edit | edit source]

Yes — absolutely, you can become an IT professional through digital courses, and the guy you met was not exaggerating. What does matter is what kind of IT, how you learn, and how consistently you apply it.

Let me ground this in reality (not hype).

Yes. Many people break into IT in 1–2 years using platforms like Udemy, Coursera, YouTube, free labs, and certifications, without a traditional degree.[edit | edit source]

But “IT” is a huge umbrella, and success depends on choosing a specific path.

Common entry-to-mid paths people learn at home:[edit | edit source]

- Troubleshooting computers[edit | edit source]
  • Networking basics
  • Operating systems (Windows, Linux)
  • User support

Timeline: 6–12 months Courses: CompTIA A+, Network+ Reality: Very achievable from home

- Routers, switches[edit | edit source]
  • TCP/IP, DNS, firewalls
  • Enterprise networks

Timeline: 1–2 years Courses: Cisco CCNA, Network+ Reality: Harder, but very legit

- Linux, Windows Server[edit | edit source]
  • AWS, Azure, Google Cloud
  • Automation, scripting

Timeline: 1.5–3 years Courses: AWS Cloud Practitioner → Solutions Architect Reality: In-demand, higher pay

- Security fundamentals[edit | edit source]
  • Ethical hacking
  • Monitoring & incident response

Timeline: 2–3 years Courses: Security+, CEH Reality: Not beginner-friendly unless you already know IT basics

- Python, Bash[edit | edit source]
  • CI/CD pipelines
  • Infrastructure as code

Timeline: 2–3 years Reality: Powerful combo skillset

What the guy you met likely did:[edit | edit source]

  • Watched structured courses
  • Practiced daily
  • Built labs at home
  • Followed certification paths
  • Applied before he felt “ready”

IT is skill-based, not credential-based.

Employers care if you can:

  • Fix problems
  • Understand systems
  • Learn quickly
  • Communicate clearly

❌ Watching videos alone is not enough[edit | edit source]

✅ Hands-on practice is what gets jobs

You need:

  • Home lab (VMs, cloud free tiers)
  • Practice tickets & scenarios
  • Projects you can talk about

This is why many fail — they consume but don’t build.

Year 1[edit | edit source]

  • IT fundamentals (A+, Network+)
  • Windows + Linux basics
  • Home lab
  • First help desk role (or internship)

Year 2

  • Specialize (networking, cloud, security)
  • One major certification
  • Real-world projects
  • Move into higher role

This is very doable.

You’ll do well if you:[edit | edit source]

  • Prefer problem-solving
  • Don’t mind Googling constantly
  • Can self-motivate
  • Are okay being confused for months
  • Learn by doing, not memorizing

People who:[edit | edit source]

  • Expect fast results
  • Avoid hands-on work
  • Need external structure
  • Hate technical frustration

Yes — you can become IT with digital courses.[edit | edit source]

Thousands of people do it every year. The timeline you heard (2 years) is completely realistic.

If you want, I can:

  • Help you pick which IT path fits you
  • Build a free or low-cost learning roadmap
  • Tell you which courses actually work (and which are fluff)

Just tell me: What attracts you to IT — money, flexibility, problem-solving, remote work, or something else?

User: I was thinking programming[edit | edit source]

I was thinking programming

Assistant: That makes sense — and yes, programming is one of the most realistic skills to learn fully online.[edit | edit source]

That makes sense — and yes, programming is one of the most realistic skills to learn fully online. Many programmers never went to school for it at all.

Let’s cut through the noise and get concrete.

Yes. More so than almost any other tech field.[edit | edit source]

Programming rewards:

  • Skill over credentials
  • Proof over promises
  • Projects over resumes

If you can build things and explain them, you’re employable.

You don’t “learn programming” in general. You pick a lane.[edit | edit source]

Here are the most common beginner-friendly paths:

You build websites & web apps.[edit | edit source]

What you learn

  • HTML, CSS (structure + design)
  • JavaScript
  • A framework (React, Vue, etc.)
  • Basic backend (Node, databases)

Why this is good

  • Fast feedback
  • Huge job market
  • Tons of free resources

Timeline

  • 6–9 months: junior-level skills
  • 12–18 months: employable
Used for automation, data, backend, AI, scripting.[edit | edit source]

What you learn

  • Python basics
  • APIs
  • Databases
  • Automation scripts

Why this is good

  • Very readable
  • Beginner-friendly
  • Extremely versatile

Timeline

  • 3–6 months: useful
  • 12–24 months: professional
More theory + structure.[edit | edit source]

What you learn

  • Data structures
  • Algorithms
  • OOP
  • One main language (Python, Java, or C#)

Why this is good

  • Strong foundation
  • Higher ceiling
  • Harder interviews

Timeline

  • 1.5–3 years
Fun but niche.[edit | edit source]

Languages

  • C# (Unity)
  • Swift (iOS)
  • Kotlin (Android)

Reality

  • Jobs exist but are competitive
  • Often better as a passion path

Given you’re exploring and not rushing:[edit | edit source]

Both teach:[edit | edit source]
  • Logic
  • Problem-solving
  • How computers think

You can pivot later without losing time.

Here’s the part people underestimate:[edit | edit source]

You will:

  • Feel dumb daily (normal)
  • Google constantly
  • Break things
  • Fix things
  • Feel powerful when it finally clicks

Programming isn’t memorization — it’s pattern recognition.

Months 1–3[edit | edit source]

  • Programming fundamentals
  • Variables, loops, functions
  • Tiny projects (calculators, scripts)

Months 4–6

  • Build real projects
  • Git & GitHub
  • Basic debugging skills

Months 7–12

  • Frameworks or backend
  • Databases
  • Portfolio
  • Apply for junior roles / freelancing

(You don’t need all of these)[edit | edit source]

  • Udemy - “Complete Python Bootcamp” (Jose Portilla) - “The Web Developer Bootcamp” (Colt Steele)
  • Free - freeCodeCamp - CS50 (Harvard) - YouTube (Traversy Media, Programming with Mosh)

Avoid anything promising:

  • “Master programming in 30 days”
  • “No coding required”
  • “Guaranteed job”

Those are lies.

- Consistency > intelligence[edit | edit source]

  • Curiosity > confidence
  • Projects > certificates
  • Patience > motivation

I can design a step-by-step learning plan for:[edit | edit source]

  • Python
  • Web development
  • Or a hybrid path

Before I do, tell me: Do you imagine yourself building websites, apps/tools, or solving problems behind the scenes (automation, logic, systems)?

That answer changes everything.

User: Yes, my brother and I want to do it togetehr[edit | edit source]

Yes, my brother and I want to do it togetehr

Assistant: That’s actually a huge advantage — doing this together dramatically increases your odds of success.[edit | edit source]

That’s actually a huge advantage — doing this together dramatically increases your odds of success. Most people fail not because they can’t learn programming, but because they get isolated and quit. You’ve already solved that part.

Let’s design this as a two-person path, not a solo grind.

When two people learn together, you get:[edit | edit source]

  • Built-in accountability
  • Someone to explain concepts to (this locks learning in)
  • Shared problem-solving
  • Emotional regulation when things get frustrating

In other words: you’re already ahead of 70% of beginners.

I strongly recommend Web Development + Python basics.[edit | edit source]

Why?

  • Visual progress (web) keeps motivation high
  • Logic foundation (Python) makes you real programmers
  • You can collaborate on projects early

You’ll feel like builders, not students.

Here’s how to do it without burning out:[edit | edit source]

- 5 days a week[edit | edit source]
  • 60–90 minutes per session
  • Same lesson, same pace
- Driver: writes code[edit | edit source]
  • Navigator: reads instructions, Googles, spots errors

This mimics real developer teamwork.

Goal: Learn how code thinks[edit | edit source]

Learn together:

  • Python basics (variables, loops, functions)
  • Git & GitHub (even lightly)
  • Basic problem solving

Mini projects:

  • Number guessing game
  • Simple calculator
  • Text-based games

Goal: Build things you can see[edit | edit source]

Learn:

  • HTML
  • CSS
  • JavaScript basics

Projects:

  • Personal landing pages
  • A shared “about us” site
  • Simple interactive pages

Goal: Portfolio-worthy work[edit | edit source]

Projects you can build together:

  • Task tracker
  • Budget app
  • Habit tracker
  • Simple game
  • Website for a real person/business

Use:

  • GitHub (collaboration!)
  • Code reviews between you two

This is where employability begins.

At this point you may diverge:[edit | edit source]

  • One goes more backend (Python, databases)
  • One goes more frontend (design, UX, JS frameworks)

That’s fine — many teams work exactly like this.

- freeCodeCamp (free, structured)[edit | edit source]

  • CS50 (hard but excellent)
  • Udemy (pick ONE course, don’t hoard)
  • VS Code
  • GitHub

Total cost can be close to $0–$30.

1. No passive watching — code every session[edit | edit source]

  1. Confusion is progress, not failure
  2. Build ugly things early
  3. Finish small projects
  4. Don’t compare yourselves to seniors

If you stay consistent:[edit | edit source]

  • 6 months → you’ll feel “I can do this”
  • 9–12 months → junior-level skills
  • 12–18 months → employable

Together, your odds are even better.

Do you and your brother:[edit | edit source]

  • Have similar schedules, or
  • Will one of you have more time than the other?

That determines whether I design a perfectly synced plan or a lead/follow system for you both.

User: We are both unemployed and home Body’s[edit | edit source]

We are both unemployed and home Body’s

Assistant: Okay — that actually gives you a rare window of power if you use it deliberately.[edit | edit source]

Okay — that actually gives you a rare window of power if you use it deliberately. Most people don’t get uninterrupted time and a partner to build with. This can change your trajectory if you treat it like a temporary apprenticeship, not “killing time at home.”

I’m going to be very practical here.

- Unemployed ❌ (how it feels)[edit | edit source]

  • Available + focused + paired ✅ (what it actually is)

If you structure this right, 6–12 months can replace years of drifting.

Title: Junior Developers in Training[edit | edit source]

Hours: 4–6 hours/day Days: 5 days/week

Even 3 solid hours/day beats most bootcamps.

###[edit | edit source]

  1. Learn (90 min)

Watch / read together. Pause constantly.

  1. Build (90–120 min)

Code what you just learned. No skipping.

  1. Break (30–60 min)

Walk, eat, rest. No screens if possible.

  1. Apply (60 min)

Mini project, challenge, or refactor.

If energy is low: do half-days, but never zero days.

###[edit | edit source]

Why first?

  • Teaches thinking
  • Less visual overwhelm
  • Builds confidence fast

Learn:

  • Variables, loops, conditionals
  • Functions
  • Lists & dictionaries
  • Simple debugging

Projects:

  • Guessing games
  • To-do list (console)
  • Simple budget tracker
Learn:[edit | edit source]
  • HTML
  • CSS
  • JavaScript basics

Projects:

  • Personal pages
  • A shared portfolio site
  • Simple interactive pages

This is where motivation spikes.

Build 2–3 solid projects:[edit | edit source]
  • Habit tracker
  • Expense tracker
  • Small business website
  • Learning app for something you care about

Use:

  • GitHub
  • Issues
  • Pull requests (even just between you two)

This is how real devs work.

These prevent burnout and fights:[edit | edit source]

  1. No shame for not knowing
  2. Explain concepts out loud (teach each other)
  3. Rotate who “leads” daily
  4. Stop at frustration, not exhaustion
  5. Celebrate tiny wins

Programming stress can leak into family dynamics if you’re not careful.

- First 2–3 months: no income[edit | edit source]

  • Month 6–9: freelance / junior work possible
  • Month 12+: stable roles possible

If pressure rises, I can help you:

  • Find micro-gigs
  • Learn automation to earn sooner
  • Target remote-friendly roles

Python[edit | edit source]

  • freeCodeCamp Python
  • Udemy: Complete Python Bootcamp

Web

  • freeCodeCamp Web
  • Udemy: Web Developer Bootcamp

Don’t hoard courses. Finish.

You are not “trying to learn programming.”[edit | edit source]

You are becoming people who solve problems with code.

That identity change is everything.

If you want, I can:[edit | edit source]

  • Create a day-by-day 30-day plan
  • Assign your first project
  • Set up a brother coding contract (sounds silly, works)

Tell me: Do you want a structured daily plan, or a flexible weekly roadmap?

Either way, this can be real.

User: All 3 on the list please[edit | edit source]

All 3 on the list please

Assistant: Perfect.[edit | edit source]

Perfect. Then we’ll lock this in like a real apprenticeship. Below are all three, fully defined and ready to start today.

Schedule:[edit | edit source]

🕘 3–5 hours/day 📅 5 days/week 🧠 Together, same pace

Goal: Understand how code thinks[edit | edit source]

Daily

  • Variables
  • Data types
  • Print & input
  • Basic math
  • Errors (this is learning)

Mini-builds

  • Greeting program
  • Calculator
  • “Mad Libs” story generator

✅ By end of week: You understand why code works, not just how.

Goal: Teach the computer to make decisions[edit | edit source]

Learn

  • if / else
  • Comparisons
  • Loops (for, while)
  • Basic debugging

Mini-builds

  • Number guessing game
  • Menu-based app
  • Simple quiz program

✅ By end of week: You can build interactive programs from scratch.

Goal: Write cleaner, reusable code[edit | edit source]

Learn

  • Functions
  • Parameters
  • Return values
  • Lists & dictionaries

Mini-builds

  • To-do list (console)
  • Budget tracker
  • Contact list app

✅ By end of week: Your code stops being messy and starts feeling powerful.

Goal: Build something worth showing[edit | edit source]

You’ll work on Project #1 (below), plus:

  • Intro to Git & GitHub
  • Saving/loading data
  • Explaining your code out loud

✅ By end of month: You can say “I built this” — and mean it.

##[edit | edit source]

“Brother Task & Habit Tracker”

- Add tasks or habits[edit | edit source]
  • Mark them complete
  • View progress
  • Save data between sessions
- Real-world logic[edit | edit source]
  • Uses everything you learned
  • Easy to expand later into a web app
- Brother A - User input - Menu system[edit | edit source]
  • Brother B - Data storage - Task logic

Then switch roles.

- Add streaks[edit | edit source]
  • Add dates
  • Add categories

This project alone is enough to:

  • Prove you’re serious
  • Talk confidently in interviews
  • Build momentum

Read this out loud together. Seriously.[edit | edit source]

1. We commit to showing up 5 days a week[edit | edit source]
  1. We code, not just watch
  2. We do not shame confusion
  3. We explain concepts to each other
  4. We rotate leadership
  5. We stop when frustrated — not when exhausted
  6. We finish small things before starting new ones
  7. We treat this like a job, not a hobby
  8. We don’t quit on bad days
  9. We reassess monthly, not emotionally

Signed: 🧑‍💻 Brother 1 _________ 🧑‍💻 Brother 2 _________ 📅 Start Date _________

This sounds symbolic — but it works because it creates identity.

If you complete this 30 days:[edit | edit source]

  • You are no longer “trying programming”
  • You are programmers
  • Month 2–3 becomes web development
  • Month 6 becomes portfolio + income paths

Next, I can:[edit | edit source]

  • Build Month 2 & 3
  • Help you choose Python vs Web specialization
  • Design your first portfolio site
  • Help you avoid the exact traps beginners fall into

👉 Next step: Tell me what day you’re starting and how many hours/day you realistically commit to — and I’ll tune this plan perfectly to your energy.

This is real. You’re not late. You’re early together.

User: What would our first project be?[edit | edit source]

What would our first project be? Or the first step. You still haven't mentioned any websites or online courses.

Assistant: You’re right to call that out — let’s get concrete and grounded.[edit | edit source]

You’re right to call that out — let’s get concrete and grounded. No motivation talk, no vague “learn Python” advice. Here is the exact first step, the exact first project, and the exact websites you will use.

I’ll assume Day 1 = today or tomorrow.

###[edit | edit source]

Both of you do this together, side by side.

  • VS Code (code editor)
  • Python 3 (latest version)
  • Create a folder called: brother-coding

👉 This alone is a psychological shift: you now have a dev environment.

##[edit | edit source]

Website: https://www.freecodecamp.org[edit | edit source]
  • 100% free
  • Structured
  • Beginner-proof
  • Respected by employers

Start with:

Do Sections 1–3 only in the first week.

###[edit | edit source]

Only buy if it’s under $15 (it always goes on sale).

Why this one:

  • Clear explanations
  • Good pacing
  • Tons of practice

⚠️ Rule: Do NOT switch between 10 courses. Pick one.

###[edit | edit source]

https://pythontutor.com

Use this when:

  • Code doesn’t make sense
  • Loops feel confusing

###[edit | edit source]

https://www.w3schools.com/python/

Use like a dictionary, not a class.

##[edit | edit source]

This is intentionally simple and powerful.

A program that:[edit | edit source]
  1. Asks the user’s name
  2. Asks how they’re feeling
  3. Responds differently based on input
  4. Ends politely

=====

What is your name? → Alex =====
How are you feeling today? → tired

Hi Alex.
Sounds like today is a low-energy day.
Thanks for checking in.
- Uses variables[edit | edit source]
  • Uses input/output
  • Introduces conditionals
  • Feels human, not robotic
Each of you:[edit | edit source]
  • Writes it separately
  • Then compares versions
  • Explains your logic to each other

That explanation is where learning locks in.

Hour 1[edit | edit source]

  • Install Python + VS Code
  • Open freeCodeCamp account

Hour 2

  • freeCodeCamp Python lessons (together)
  • Pause, try things in VS Code

Hour 3

  • Build “Conversation Machine”
  • Break it
  • Fix it
  • Improve it

If you stop here, you already succeeded.

Next mini-projects (in order):[edit | edit source]

  1. Number guessing game
  2. Simple calculator
  3. Yes/No decision program
  4. Mini quiz

All based on:

  • freeCodeCamp lessons
  • Your own curiosity

- ❌ Watching without coding[edit | edit source]

  • ❌ Switching courses constantly
  • ❌ Feeling “behind”
  • ❌ Trying to be perfect

You are exactly where you should be.

1. Open freeCodeCamp[edit | edit source]

  1. Install Python + VS Code
  2. Create brother-coding folder
  3. Build the Conversation Machine

If you want, next I can:

  • Write the exact code outline for Project #0
  • Create a 7-day checklist
  • Help you set up GitHub on Day 7

Just tell me: 👉 Do you want the code outline, or do you want to try it blind first?

Both are valid — beginners learn either way.

User: Ill try the code outline[edit | edit source]

Ill try the code outline

Assistant: Perfect.[edit | edit source]

Perfect. Here’s a clean, beginner-safe code outline you can follow line by line. Don’t rush it. Type it yourselves — do not copy-paste.

This is Project #0: The Conversation Machine.

🧠 WHAT YOU’RE BUILDING[edit | edit source]

A simple program that:

  1. Greets the user
  2. Asks their name
  3. Asks how they’re feeling
  4. Responds differently based on the answer

You’ll learn:

  • print()
  • input()
  • variables
  • if / elif / else

🛠️ FILE SETUP[edit | edit source]

  1. Open VS Code
  2. Create a new file: `` conversation_machine.py
    === 🧩 CODE OUTLINE (FILL THIS IN) ===
    
    Type this exact structure, then fill the blanks.
    python

1. Greet the user[edit | edit source]

print("Hello.")

2. Ask for the user's name[edit | edit source]

name = input("What is your name? ")

3. Respond using their name[edit | edit source]

print("Nice to meet you,", name)

4. Ask how they are feeling[edit | edit source]

feeling = input("How are you feeling today? ")

5. Normalize the input (optional but powerful)[edit | edit source]

feeling = feeling.lower()

6. Respond based on how they feel[edit | edit source]

if feeling == "good":

   print("That's great to hear!")

elif feeling == "okay":

   print("Sounds like a steady kind of day.")

elif feeling == "tired":

   print("Make sure you rest when you can.")

elif feeling == "sad":

   print("I'm sorry you're feeling that way.")

else:

   print("Thanks for sharing how you feel.")

7. Close the conversation[edit | edit source]

print("Thanks for chatting,", name)

=== ▶️ HOW TO RUN IT ===

In VS Code:
# Save the file
# Open the terminal
# Run:

python conversation_machine.py ``

If nothing happens — that’s okay. Read the error. Errors are teachers.

🧪 REQUIRED EXPERIMENTS (DO THESE)[edit | edit source]

After it works, change things:

  • Add a new feeling (e.g. "excited")
  • Change the tone (serious / funny)
  • Ask a second question
  • Add emojis as text 😄

Then: 👉 Explain to your brother what each part does out loud.

If you can explain it, you understand it.

🧠 COMMON BEGINNER MISTAKES (NORMAL)[edit | edit source]

  • Forgetting quotes " "
  • Mixing up = and ==
  • Misspelling variables
  • Indentation errors

These are not failures. They are milestones.

🪜 WHAT THIS UNLOCKS[edit | edit source]

Once you finish this:

  • You understand the core of programming
  • You can build interactive programs
  • You’re ready for loops next

Your next project will be: ➡️ Number Guessing Game

When you’re done[edit | edit source]

Tell me:

  • Did it run?
  • What error (if any) did you get?
  • What feeling responses did you add?

From there, I’ll level you up.

References[edit | edit source]

  1. "Becoming IT via Courses". ChatGPT. Retrieved 2025-12-25.