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User: are you able to view this question and answer it: edit
are you able to view this question and answer it: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwentyFour/comments/1p42d35/two_scenarios_one_with_zero_prep_one_with_two/
Assistant: Short answer: not directly, no. edit
Short answer: not directly, no.
I tried to open that exact Reddit link from here, but my browsing environment is blocking that specific page, so I can’t see the question’s contents.
If you paste the text of the post (and any key replies you care about), I can absolutely read it and give you a detailed answer or analysis.
User: Two scenarios: one with zero prep, one with two hours of prep, no sniper advantage. edit
Two scenarios: one with zero prep, one with two hours of prep, no sniper advantage. Who’s the last one standing?
PLEASE READ: Only TV action-drama leads from 2001 to 2018 are included. No fantasy, no hard sci-fi.
• Jack Bauer
Specialty: Counterterrorism, interrogation, urban infiltration. Training: Former U.S. Army Delta Force Captain. Notes: Elite in high-pressure crisis response and unconventional operations.
• John Reese
Specialty: Covert ops, surveillance, precision shooting. Training: U.S. Army Special Forces (Green Beret); later CIA paramilitary. Notes: Highly disciplined, lethal in close-quarters combat.
• Raylan Givens
Specialty: Fugitive pursuit, fast-draw shooting, rural law enforcement. Training: Deputy U.S. Marshal with advanced pursuit & negotiation training. Notes: Exceptional marksman with frontier-style tactics.
• Leroy Jethro Gibbs
Specialty: Criminal investigations, interrogation, tactical leadership. Training: Former U.S. Marine Corps Scout Sniper, rank: Gunnery Sergeant. Notes: Methodical, disciplined, expert in field operations.
• Jonas Blane
Specialty: Direct action, hostage rescue, counterterrorism. Training: Senior NCO in U.S. Army Delta Force (Master Sergeant). Notes: Team leader with elite strategic and tactical command abilities.
• Michael Westen
Specialty: Covert infiltration, explosives, improvised tactics. Training: Former CIA operative, expert in social engineering & tradecraft. Notes: Highly inventive field agent, excels with limited resources.
• Sydney Bristow
Specialty: Deep-cover espionage, disguise, languages, melee combat. Training: CIA field operative trained in advanced tradecraft & infiltration. Notes: High adaptability; excels in undercover identity work.
• Nikita
Specialty: Black-ops operations, hand-to-hand combat, infiltration. Training: Trained by covert organization Division in assassination & covert tactics. Notes: Master of stealth, evasion, and unconventional operations.
Assistant: Nice, thanks for pasting it. edit
Nice, thanks for pasting it. Let’s set some ground rules so we’re talking about the same thing:
- Everyone is human and “street-level” (no magic tech, no sci-fi assists like The Machine, no Rambaldi artifacts, etc.).
- No sniper perches / 800-yard shots – everyone’s forced into roughly the same mid/close-range environment.
- Neutral urban-ish arena, nobody gets outside help or comms.
I’ll answer for both scenarios.
Scenario 1: Zero prep, dropped in right now edit
With no prep, this is basically:
- Who reacts fastest, moves smartest in real time, and wins a chaotic gunfight against multiple Tier-1 operators?
Top tier in this context:
- John Reese – Green Beret + CIA wetwork, absurdly efficient with pistols and carbines, routinely takes on full tactical teams alone and wins. He’s extremely calm under fire, almost never hesitates, and is lethal at both close and medium range.
- Jonas Blane – Delta senior NCO, battlefield tactician, extremely experienced in direct action. But he’s optimized as a team leader.
- Jack Bauer – Delta background, hyper-aggressive, insane pain tolerance, great at improvising under fire.
- Nikita – Monster at close quarters and stealth, very good with firearms, but her best work is done when she can shape the engagement.
Second tier (dangerous, but slightly outclassed here):
- Michael Westen – Very capable shooter and fighter, but his edge comes from prep and environment control.
- Sydney Bristow – Incredible hand-to-hand, solid with guns, but canonically plays more in infiltration/spy work than pure “clean the room against Tier-1 SOF.”
- Gibbs – Former Marine sniper and solid field agent, but older and less physically explosive than the above.
- Raylan Givens – Lightning-fast draw and a killer gunfighter in 1v1/1v2 situations, but he’s mostly going up against criminals, not a stacked roster of special-operations pros.
In a sudden, chaotic fight where nobody got to rig the environment:
- Last one standing (zero prep): John Reese
Why Reese over Bauer / Jonas / Nikita?
- He’s shown repeatedly handling exactly this scenario: walking into ambushes, adjusting on the fly, and shredding multiple trained shooters.
- He blends SOF gun skill + assassin mentality: he doesn’t just win a gunfight, he hunts.
- Bauer is close, but he’s far more often getting injured, captured, tortured, etc. and clawing his way back. Jonas is a monster, but his on-screen feats still lean more “elite operator among operators” than “near-mythical solo terminator” like Reese.
- Nikita is scariest up close and with some setup; in a fight that starts hot with guns already out, she’s at a slight disadvantage vs Reese’s pure gun-meat-grinder style.
If you made me name a final two: Reese vs Nikita, with Reese edging it because the environment starts “dirty” and gun-centric rather than stealth-centric.
Scenario 2: Two hours of prep, no sniper advantage edit
Two hours of prep massively changes the weighting. Now we’re asking:
- Who turns a neutral environment into their personal kill-box with limited time and materials?
This favors tradecraft, explosives, deception, and shaping the battlefield, not just raw shooting.
Here’s who gets the biggest relative boost:
- Michael Westen – This is literally his thing. Give him two hours in an urban environment and: - Every doorway is a funnel. - Every likely approach path has an IED, tripwire, or distraction device. - Sightlines are managed to force people into angles where he wins. - He’ll have fake positions, misdirection, and probably get two or three people killed by walking into his traps before they ever see him.
- Jack Bauer & Jonas Blane also prep well: - They’d create kill zones, fallback positions, and ambush points. - But their prep style is more “small-unit military op” than “MacGyvered death maze for multiple elite opponents.”
- Nikita & Sydney Bristow: - With prep, both would lean heavily into stealth, disguise, and misdirection. - They might try to isolate and pick off targets one by one, possibly posing as civilians or using decoys to lure others into traps.
- Reese: - Still terrifying, but he loses his normal superpower: omniscient intel from The Machine. - With prep, he’ll set some simple traps, choose high-ground/cover, but his biggest edge is still real-time execution, not Rube Goldberg battlefield design.
Given just two hours, constrained to what you can actually scrounge in that time, the person who gets the most bang (literally) for that time is:
- Last one standing (two hours prep): Michael Westen
Why Westen here?
- His entire show is about turning short prep windows and junk materials into asymmetric advantages against better-armed, better-trained people.
- He doesn’t just set traps; he manipulates people: - Fake meeting spots. - Noisy distractions to clump others together. - Booby-trapped chokepoints that channel them into each other’s line of fire.
- He’s also disciplined enough and experienced enough to avoid getting emotionally baited, which is often Bauer’s flaw.
Probable late-game in the prep scenario: Westen vs Reese/Nikita/Jonas. But in a pre-rigged urban arena, walking into Westen’s playground, I’d expect him to thin the herd at range with traps and finish the final opponent in a position he picked, not them.
Quick TL;DR edit
- Zero prep: → John Reese is most likely last standing – he’s the most consistently lethal solo operator in sudden, chaotic firefights.
- Two hours prep: → Michael Westen takes it – short-window environmental prep, improvised explosives, and psychological manipulation are exactly his wheelhouse, and those two hours multiply his lethality more than anyone else’s.
If you want, we can tweak assumptions (e.g., specific environment: office tower vs ship vs mall) and see how that shifts the winner.
References edit
- ↑ "Unable to view link". ChatGPT. Retrieved 2025-11-23.