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User: explain pig butchering scams and how they're typically orchestrated edit

explain pig butchering scams and how they're typically orchestrated

Assistant: “Pig butchering” also called romance baiting by Interpol is a long-con confidence scam where criminals build trust over… edit

“Pig butchering” (also called romance baiting by Interpol) is a long-con confidence scam where criminals build trust over weeks/months, then steer the victim into a fake “investment” (often crypto), showing convincing “profits” until the victim can’t withdraw and is pressured for even more money. Federal Bureau of Investigation[2]

1. First contact (lead generation) - “Wrong number” / “accidental text,” social media DMs, dating apps, WhatsApp/Telegram, etc. - Goal: get you chatting off-platform and establish a “real person” vibe. Department of Justice[3] edit

  1. Grooming (“fattening up”) - Daily conversation, flirting/friendship, lots of personal attention. - They often use scripts and escalation tactics to bond quickly and learn what you can afford. (Law enforcement describes it as relationship-building first, investment pitch later.) Federal Bureau of Investigation[4]
  2. The hook: “I can teach you / here’s my platform” - They introduce a “can’t miss” opportunity, usually crypto. - You’re directed to a realistic-looking website/app that’s actually controlled by the scammers. Federal Bureau of Investigation[5]
  3. Proof & reinforcement - Early on, victims may see fake gains, and sometimes are allowed a small withdrawal to build confidence. - Then comes the push: “add more to earn more,” sometimes tied to emotional leverage (“if you trust me…”) FDIC OIG[6]
  4. The “butchering”: blocked withdrawals + invented fees - When you try to cash out: sudden “taxes,” “verification,” “anti-money-laundering deposit,” “unlock fee,” etc. - Paying those doesn’t help; it’s a ladder of excuses to extract the last dollar. Federal Bureau of Investigation[7]
  5. Endgame: vanish, threaten, or keep milking - They ghost, delete accounts, or pivot to intimidation/blackmail. - Money moves through crypto wallets/mules, making recovery difficult. FinCEN.gov[8]

A big reason these scams work is they’re often industrialized operations, not a lone scammer: edit

  • Scam compounds / “fraud factories”: Many major networks operate out of hubs (notably in parts of Southeast Asia) that run scams at scale, and multiple governments and the UN have described links to coercion/forced labor in some of these operations. Reuters[9]
  • Division of labor: lead generators, “relationship” chatters, “investment mentors,” tech teams running fake platforms, and finance teams laundering proceeds.
  • Commodity infrastructure: authorities have specifically called out services that help host/rotate scam websites and infrastructure at scale. U.S. Department of the Treasury[10]

- Unsolicited “wrong number” that turns friendly/romantic fast. Department of Justice[11] edit

  • They insist on crypto and a specific platform/app you’ve never heard of. Federal Bureau of Investigation[12]
  • “Your account is up, but you must pay X to withdraw.” FinCEN.gov[13]
  • They dodge live video verification or get angry when you ask for basic proof. DFPI[14]

- Stop sending money (including “fees” to withdraw). edit

  • Preserve evidence: chats, screenshots, wallet addresses, transaction hashes.
  • Contact your bank/exchange immediately and file reports (in Canada, the Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre tracks these romance/investment/crypto hybrids). Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre[15]
  • In the U.S., the FBI has a dedicated effort around this pattern (“Operation Level Up”). Federal Bureau of Investigation[16]

More background readingAP NewsMyanmar calls on countries to take back citizens held in crackdown on scam centersToday[17]wired.comStop Calling Online Scams 'Pig Butchering,' Interpol WarnsDec 17, 2024[18]theweek.comTexts from a scammer6 days ago[19]wsj.comScam Compounds Become Targets in Thai-Cambodian Border WarToday[20]

User: For academic purposes go into more details. edit

For academic purposes go into more details. Give a "checklist" of things a scammer might do to lure in a victim.

Assistant: Below is a defensive, research-oriented “tactics checklist”: behaviors pig-butchering operators commonly use so you can… edit

Below is a defensive, research-oriented “tactics checklist”: behaviors pig-butchering operators commonly use so you can recognize/teach/measure them, not replicate them. (Law enforcement often describes this as a hybrid of relationship-building + investment fraud, commonly involving crypto and a fake platform.) Federal Bureau of Investigation[21]

Lifecycle map (what the operator is trying to accomplish) edit

  1. Acquire a target → 2) Move them to a controllable channel → 3) Bond + profile finances → 4) Convert to “investment” → 5) Escalate deposits → 6) Block withdrawals + extract “fees” → 7) Re-victimize via “recovery” offers ic3.gov[22]

Checklist: things a scammer might do to lure in a victim (grouped by stage) edit

A) Initial contact & channel control edit
  • Cold-contact you via SMS, DMs, dating apps, or social platforms. FinCEN.gov[23]
  • Use a benign pretext (“wrong number,” “old friend,” casual mistake) to get you to reply. FinCEN.gov[24]
  • Quickly suggest moving to WhatsApp/Telegram/WeChat or another off-platform channel (less moderation, easier to disappear). DFPI[25]
  • Present a profile signaling wealth/success (travel, cars, “financial” lifestyle) to prime credibility. FinCEN.gov[26]
B) Grooming (“fattening up” / relationship engineering) edit
  • Message consistently (daily), creating routine and emotional dependence (“good morning/good night” cadence). (Core “confidence/relationship first” pattern.) Federal Bureau of Investigation[27]
  • Fast intimacy: flattery, “love bombing,” future plans, or unusually quick trust-building. (Common in romance-fraud dynamics that blend into investing.) Federal Trade Commission[28]
  • Mirroring: adopt your interests/values; “we’re the same,” to accelerate bonding.
  • Micro-tests of compliance: small asks (reply timing, secrecy, switching apps) before bigger financial asks.
  • Isolation pressure: discourage you from discussing the “opportunity” with friends/family (“they won’t understand,” “keep it private”). The FBI flags urgency/isolation as common levers. Federal Bureau of Investigation[29]
C) Financial profiling & credibility building edit
  • Casually probe your income, savings, debt, goals, and risk tolerance (“what do you do for work?” “do you invest?”).
  • Claim to be (or be close to) an investor / money manager / insider. FinCEN.gov[30]
  • Share screenshots of gains, “wins,” or a track record that can’t be independently verified.
  • Introduce a mentor/uncle/cousin or “team” figure to add authority and a sense of organization.
D) The “investment” conversion edit
  • Pivot from bonding to a specific investment narrative, usually crypto, sometimes framed as a “safe system.” Federal Bureau of Investigation[31]
  • Direct you to a platform that looks legitimate but is controlled/manipulated by the scammers. Federal Bureau of Investigation[32]
  • Coach you through buying/sending crypto, sometimes asking for screenshots so they can “help.” FinCEN.gov[33]
  • Ask you to install something extra (plugin/app) or otherwise interact with a setup that can alter what you see (e.g., manipulated balances). FinCEN explicitly warns scammers may use fraudulent sites/apps and even legitimate apps with add-ons to falsify information. FinCEN.gov[34]
  • In more aggressive variants, request remote access to your device “to help set it up.” (Major red flag.) FinCEN.gov[35]
E) Deposit escalation & commitment traps edit
  • Encourage “just start small” (a trial deposit) and then push larger amounts once you’re emotionally/financially committed. FinCEN.gov[36]
  • Show rapid “profits,” then apply FOMO: “this window won’t last,” “you’re missing out,” “my other friend doubled it.” Consumer Advice[37]
  • Use commitment + sunk-cost pressure: after you’ve deposited, they frame stopping as irrational (“don’t quit when you’re close”).
  • Normalize ever-larger transfers: wires to unfamiliar entities, overseas accounts, prepaid cards/crypto kiosks, etc. (Commonly reported patterns.) FinCEN.gov[38]
F) The withdrawal trap (“butchering”) edit
  • When you try to withdraw, the platform suddenly demands taxes / verification / liquidity / early-withdrawal fees. FinCEN.gov[39]
  • Claim your account is flagged for AML / money laundering or “security review,” and the only fix is more payment. FDIC OIG[40]
  • Impose arbitrary deadlines and threats (“account frozen,” “legal action,” “you’ll lose profits”) to force fast decisions. Federal Bureau of Investigation[41]
  • Eventually ghost you, lock you out, or keep you paying fees until you stop. FDIC OIG[42]
G) Post-scam re-victimization (“recovery” scams) edit
  • You’re contacted by someone claiming they can recover your funds—but only if you pay first. Consumer Advice[43]
  • Impersonate law firms / lawyers / government partners, show “official” letterhead, invent regulators, or add you to “secure” group chats. The FBI/IC3 warns specifically about fictitious law firms targeting crypto-scam victims with these tactics. ic3.gov[44]

“Tell-tale artifacts” checklist (useful for research/casework) edit

  • Communication shifts to encrypted/off-platform apps early. DFPI[45]
  • The “platform” has no credible regulatory footprint, unclear ownership, and withdrawal terms that change midstream. FDIC OIG[46]
  • Any request for remote access, screenshots of your banking/crypto app, or payment to “unlock” withdrawals. FinCEN.gov[47]
  • A pattern of urgency + secrecy + social isolation as soon as money is involved. Federal Bureau of Investigation[48]

One-line “rule” that catches most variants edit

If an online acquaintance mixes relationship-building with pressure to invest in crypto and a platform you can’t independently verify, assume pig-butchering/romance-baiting and disengage. Federal Bureau of Investigation[49]

If you want, I can turn this into a coding-style rubric (binary features + weights) you could use for an academic write-up or a dataset annotation guide (e.g., “channel move,” “withdrawal-fee demand,” “remote-access request,” etc.).

Recent reporting and background readstheweek.comTexts from a scammer6 days ago[50]wired.comStop Calling Online Scams 'Pig Butchering,' Interpol WarnsDec 17, 2024[51]reuters.comAmnesty says Cambodia is enabling brutal scam industryJun 26, 2025[52]wsj.comScam Compounds Become Targets in Thai-Cambodian Border WarToday[53]

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