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''This conversation was exported from ChatGPT''<ref>{{cite web|title=Bell County East Map|url=https://chatgpt.com/share/68503d6e-9400-800b-a15a-dd25d536e24f|publisher=ChatGPT|access-date=2025-11- | ''This conversation was exported from ChatGPT''<ref>{{cite web|title=Bell County East Map|url=https://chatgpt.com/share/68503d6e-9400-800b-a15a-dd25d536e24f|publisher=ChatGPT|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref> | ||
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You can find detailed route maps for Oncor’s '''Bell County East – Big Hill 765 kV transmission line''' (which includes the “Bell County East” project in the Briggs, TX area) directly from Oncor’s website. Here's how to access them: | You can find detailed route maps for Oncor’s '''Bell County East – Big Hill 765 kV transmission line''' (which includes the “Bell County East” project in the Briggs, TX area) directly from Oncor’s website. Here's how to access them: | ||
===== - Oncor’s official '''Current Transmission Line Projects''' page lists the '''Bell County East – Big Hill 765 kV Transmission Line Project''', including a downloadable '''Project Map''' for the approved route felt.com<ref>{{cite web|title=felt.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/oncorwww/us/en/home/about-us/transmission-systems/current-transmission-line-projects.html|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11- | ===== - Oncor’s official '''Current Transmission Line Projects''' page lists the '''Bell County East – Big Hill 765 kV Transmission Line Project''', including a downloadable '''Project Map''' for the approved route felt.com<ref>{{cite web|title=felt.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/oncorwww/us/en/home/about-us/transmission-systems/current-transmission-line-projects.html|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ===== | ||
'' Scroll to find the project section—it includes a labeled “Project Map” (often called ''Figure 1* or similar), which outlines the exact path through Bell County. | '' Scroll to find the project section—it includes a labeled “Project Map” (often called ''Figure 1* or similar), which outlines the exact path through Bell County. | ||
===== - Oncor submitted this line to the Texas Public Utility Commission (PUC) under '''Docket No. 58126''' on '''May 29, 2025''' oncor.com<ref>{{cite web|title=oncor.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/oncorwww/us/en/home/about-us/transmission-systems/current-transmission-line-projects.html|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11- | ===== - Oncor submitted this line to the Texas Public Utility Commission (PUC) under '''Docket No. 58126''' on '''May 29, 2025''' oncor.com<ref>{{cite web|title=oncor.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/oncorwww/us/en/home/about-us/transmission-systems/current-transmission-line-projects.html|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ===== | ||
* The PUCT’s Public Interchange for that docket contains both the detailed route and any supplemental maps. You can search their docket system for “58126” to view/download PDFs. | * The PUCT’s Public Interchange for that docket contains both the detailed route and any supplemental maps. You can search their docket system for “58126” to view/download PDFs. | ||
===== - Bell County’s Engineering Department offers GIS and ARC‑GIS files (contact '''Gary Stermer, 254‑933‑5275''' or [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])) interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://interchange.puc.texas.gov/Documents/36995_2_616599.PDF|publisher=interchange.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11- | ===== - Bell County’s Engineering Department offers GIS and ARC‑GIS files (contact '''Gary Stermer, 254‑933‑5275''' or [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])) interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://interchange.puc.texas.gov/Documents/36995_2_616599.PDF|publisher=interchange.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>bellcountytx.com<ref>{{cite web|title=bellcountytx.com|url=https://www.bellcountytx.com/departments/engineer/maps.php|publisher=bellcountytx.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ===== | ||
* They may have interactive overlays showing the proposed transmission line path through the county, including around Briggs. | * They may have interactive overlays showing the proposed transmission line path through the county, including around Briggs. | ||
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# Consider contacting Bell County’s engineering office for GIS‑based overlays. | # Consider contacting Bell County’s engineering office for GIS‑based overlays. | ||
====== - '''Oncor’s site''': Has a downloadable project map for the Bell County East transmission line interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://interchange.puc.texas.gov/Documents/36995_2_616599.PDF|publisher=interchange.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11- | ====== - '''Oncor’s site''': Has a downloadable project map for the Bell County East transmission line interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://interchange.puc.texas.gov/Documents/36995_2_616599.PDF|publisher=interchange.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>ercot.com<ref>{{cite web|title=ercot.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/oncorwww/us/en/home/about-us/transmission-systems/current-transmission-line-projects.html|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ====== | ||
* PUCT Docket 58126: Includes all technical filings and maps. | * PUCT Docket 58126: Includes all technical filings and maps. | ||
* Bell County GIS office: Can provide local map overlays. | * Bell County GIS office: Can provide local map overlays. | ||
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* Appeal lines/routes | * Appeal lines/routes | ||
The PUCT encourages public participation—if enough parties intervene, the case may be referred to the '''State Office of Administrative Hearings (SOAH)''' for a trial-like process felt.com<ref>{{cite web|title=felt.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/dam/oncorwww/documents/about-us/transmission-system/public-participation/Brochure8x14.pdf.coredownload.inline.pdf|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11- | The PUCT encourages public participation—if enough parties intervene, the case may be referred to the '''State Office of Administrative Hearings (SOAH)''' for a trial-like process felt.com<ref>{{cite web|title=felt.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/dam/oncorwww/documents/about-us/transmission-system/public-participation/Brochure8x14.pdf.coredownload.inline.pdf|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
Steps: | Steps: | ||
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* A window to '''submit written comments''' supporting or opposing the line | * A window to '''submit written comments''' supporting or opposing the line | ||
Engaging early—before the PUCT approves the route—is crucial interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/oncorwww/us/en/home/about-us/transmission-systems/current-transmission-line-projects.html|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11- | Engaging early—before the PUCT approves the route—is crucial interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/oncorwww/us/en/home/about-us/transmission-systems/current-transmission-line-projects.html|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
==== Navigating a Certificate of Convenience and Necessity (CCN) process is complex. Support from: ==== | ==== Navigating a Certificate of Convenience and Necessity (CCN) process is complex. Support from: ==== | ||
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* '''Engineering consultants''': to challenge technical data, impacts, or propose lower-impact alternatives | * '''Engineering consultants''': to challenge technical data, impacts, or propose lower-impact alternatives | ||
Even public brochures recommend professional representation during hearings ercot.com<ref>{{cite web|title=ercot.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/dam/oncorwww/documents/about-us/transmission-system/public-participation/Brochure8x14.pdf.coredownload.inline.pdf|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11- | Even public brochures recommend professional representation during hearings ercot.com<ref>{{cite web|title=ercot.com|url=https://www.oncor.com/content/dam/oncorwww/documents/about-us/transmission-system/public-participation/Brochure8x14.pdf.coredownload.inline.pdf|publisher=oncor.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
==== - Engage neighbors and landowners along the proposed path to file joint interventions and comments. ==== | ==== - Engage neighbors and landowners along the proposed path to file joint interventions and comments. ==== | ||
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* Your '''name''', '''address''', '''email''', and '''phone number''' | * Your '''name''', '''address''', '''email''', and '''phone number''' | ||
* The '''PUCT docket number''': '''58126''' | * The '''PUCT docket number''': '''58126''' | ||
* A description of '''how you’re directly affected''' — e.g., your land is crossed by or near the proposed line, risks to property, health, or county resources en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://www.centerpointenergy.com/en-us/Corp/Documents/Non-CREZ_Landowner_Brochure.pdf|publisher=centerpointenergy.com|access-date=2025-11- | * A description of '''how you’re directly affected''' — e.g., your land is crossed by or near the proposed line, risks to property, health, or county resources en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://www.centerpointenergy.com/en-us/Corp/Documents/Non-CREZ_Landowner_Brochure.pdf|publisher=centerpointenergy.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>cpsenergy.com<ref>{{cite web|title=cpsenergy.com|url=https://www.cpsenergy.com/content/dam/corporate/en/Documents/Infrastructure/howard-road-to-leon-creek/PUC-Guide-for-Landowners-Affected-by-a-New-Electric-Transmission-Line-Route-%28English%29.pdf|publisher=cpsenergy.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
You can use: | You can use: | ||
* The official '''PUCT Intervention form (CCN Request to Intervene)''' cityofjustin.com<ref>{{cite web|title=cityofjustin.com|url=https://ftp.puc.texas.gov/public/puct-info/industry/electric/forms/ccn/Intervene.pdf|publisher=ftp.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11- | * The official '''PUCT Intervention form (CCN Request to Intervene)''' cityofjustin.com<ref>{{cite web|title=cityofjustin.com|url=https://ftp.puc.texas.gov/public/puct-info/industry/electric/forms/ccn/Intervene.pdf|publisher=ftp.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref> | ||
* Or a '''free-form letter''' containing all the required elements | * Or a '''free-form letter''' containing all the required elements | ||
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# Obtain your '''tracking number''' after submission. | # Obtain your '''tracking number''' after submission. | ||
# Serve copies to '''all parties''' in the docket (e.g., Oncor, PUCT Staff). | # Serve copies to '''all parties''' in the docket (e.g., Oncor, PUCT Staff). | ||
# Email your '''Tracking Sheet''' and the filing to '''[[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])''' interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.cpsenergy.com/content/dam/corporate/en/Documents/Infrastructure/sprucetopawnee/Newspaper_Notice_ADA_4925.pdf|publisher=cpsenergy.com|access-date=2025-11- | # Email your '''Tracking Sheet''' and the filing to '''[[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])''' interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.cpsenergy.com/content/dam/corporate/en/Documents/Infrastructure/sprucetopawnee/Newspaper_Notice_ADA_4925.pdf|publisher=cpsenergy.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>interchange.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=interchange.puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.centerpointenergy.com/en-us/Corp/Documents/Non-CREZ_Landowner_Brochure.pdf|publisher=centerpointenergy.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref> | ||
b. File by mail: | b. File by mail: | ||
* Mail '''10 copies''' to: ``<code> Public Utility Commission of Texas Central Records – Filing Clerk 1701 N. Congress Ave. P.O. Box 13326 Austin, TX 78711‑3326 </code>`` | * Mail '''10 copies''' to: ``<code> Public Utility Commission of Texas Central Records – Filing Clerk 1701 N. Congress Ave. P.O. Box 13326 Austin, TX 78711‑3326 </code>`` | ||
* Or use courier delivery to the physical address at 1701 N. Congress Ave., Austin, 78701 cityofjustin.com<ref>{{cite web|title=cityofjustin.com|url=https://www.cityofjustin.com/313/Oncor-Transmission-Line-Project|publisher=cityofjustin.com|access-date=2025-11- | * Or use courier delivery to the physical address at 1701 N. Congress Ave., Austin, 78701 cityofjustin.com<ref>{{cite web|title=cityofjustin.com|url=https://www.cityofjustin.com/313/Oncor-Transmission-Line-Project|publisher=cityofjustin.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>centerpointenergy.com<ref>{{cite web|title=centerpointenergy.com|url=https://www.cpsenergy.com/content/dam/corporate/en/Documents/Infrastructure/sprucetopawnee/Newspaper_Notice_ADA_4925.pdf|publisher=cpsenergy.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref> | ||
===== Intervention must be filed '''before the deadline''' stated in the Notice of Intent (check the notice for exact date). If the docket is similar to other CCN cases, the deadline is often about '''30–45 days''' after the notice is issued puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.centerpointenergy.com/en-us/Corp/Documents/Non-CREZ_Landowner_Brochure.pdf|publisher=centerpointenergy.com|access-date=2025-11- | ===== Intervention must be filed '''before the deadline''' stated in the Notice of Intent (check the notice for exact date). If the docket is similar to other CCN cases, the deadline is often about '''30–45 days''' after the notice is issued puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.centerpointenergy.com/en-us/Corp/Documents/Non-CREZ_Landowner_Brochure.pdf|publisher=centerpointenergy.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ''Missing the deadline typically disqualifies you from official party status.'' ===== | ||
===== Once accepted as an '''Intervenor''', you'll have the following rights: ===== | ===== Once accepted as an '''Intervenor''', you'll have the following rights: ===== | ||
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* Submit '''affidavits/testimony''' | * Submit '''affidavits/testimony''' | ||
* Participate in '''hearings and cross-examine witnesses''' | * Participate in '''hearings and cross-examine witnesses''' | ||
* File '''motions, discovery requests''', and '''briefs''' ftp.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=ftp.puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.cpsenergy.com/content/dam/corporate/en/Documents/Infrastructure/howard-road-to-leon-creek/PUC-Guide-for-Landowners-Affected-by-a-New-Electric-Transmission-Line-Route-%28English%29.pdf|publisher=cpsenergy.com|access-date=2025-11- | * File '''motions, discovery requests''', and '''briefs''' ftp.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=ftp.puc.texas.gov|url=https://www.cpsenergy.com/content/dam/corporate/en/Documents/Infrastructure/howard-road-to-leon-creek/PUC-Guide-for-Landowners-Affected-by-a-New-Electric-Transmission-Line-Route-%28English%29.pdf|publisher=cpsenergy.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref> | ||
You'll also be expected to '''serve all filings''' on other parties and comply with PUCT procedural rules ftp.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=ftp.puc.texas.gov|url=https://ftp.puc.texas.gov/public/puct-info/industry/electric/forms/ccn/Landowners_and_Transmission_Line_Cases_at_the_PUC.pdf|publisher=ftp.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11- | You'll also be expected to '''serve all filings''' on other parties and comply with PUCT procedural rules ftp.puc.texas.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=ftp.puc.texas.gov|url=https://ftp.puc.texas.gov/public/puct-info/industry/electric/forms/ccn/Landowners_and_Transmission_Line_Cases_at_the_PUC.pdf|publisher=ftp.puc.texas.gov|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
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# Attach your Request to Intervene as a PDF or Word doc. | # Attach your Request to Intervene as a PDF or Word doc. | ||
# Serve a copy to all other parties (including Oncor’s attorneys). | # Serve a copy to all other parties (including Oncor’s attorneys). | ||
# Email a copy with the e-filing tracking sheet to [email protected]<ref>{{cite web|[email protected]|url=https://chatgpt.com/share/[email protected]|publisher=chatgpt.com|access-date=2025-11- | # Email a copy with the e-filing tracking sheet to [email protected]<ref>{{cite web|[email protected]|url=https://chatgpt.com/share/[email protected]|publisher=chatgpt.com|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref> | ||
Option 2: Mail (if not e-filing) | Option 2: Mail (if not e-filing) | ||
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what does a 765KV tower look like? | what does a 765KV tower look like? | ||
=== Assistant: | === Assistant: Here's what a 765 kV transmission tower typically looks like: === | ||
Here's what a '''765 kV transmission tower''' typically looks like: | Here's what a '''765 kV transmission tower''' typically looks like: | ||
===== - '''Steel lattice tower''' — a robust, crisscross-steel framework designed to handle immense weight, wind, and ice loads towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com<ref>{{cite web|title=towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11- | ===== - '''Steel lattice tower''' — a robust, crisscross-steel framework designed to handle immense weight, wind, and ice loads towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com<ref>{{cite web|title=towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ===== | ||
* Usually a '''self-supporting''' structure (no need for guy wires), though some variations (like V-shaped guyed towers) do use supporting cables en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11- | * Usually a '''self-supporting''' structure (no need for guy wires), though some variations (like V-shaped guyed towers) do use supporting cables en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
===== - Tower height typically ranges from '''135–150 feet''' in flat terrain, and up to '''200 feet or more''' in hilly or special-span areas web.ecs.baylor.edu<ref>{{cite web|title=web.ecs.baylor.edu|url=https://web.ecs.baylor.edu/faculty/grady/_13_EE392J_2_Spring11_AEP_Transmission_Facts.pdf|publisher=web.ecs.baylor.edu|access-date=2025-11- | ===== - Tower height typically ranges from '''135–150 feet''' in flat terrain, and up to '''200 feet or more''' in hilly or special-span areas web.ecs.baylor.edu<ref>{{cite web|title=web.ecs.baylor.edu|url=https://web.ecs.baylor.edu/faculty/grady/_13_EE392J_2_Spring11_AEP_Transmission_Facts.pdf|publisher=web.ecs.baylor.edu|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ===== | ||
* On VERY tall spans (e.g. long river crossings), units can reach heights of '''300+ feet''' (~95 m) en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11- | * On VERY tall spans (e.g. long river crossings), units can reach heights of '''300+ feet''' (~95 m) en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
===== - Carries '''one or two circuits''', each with ''three'' phase conductors, often bundled in doubles or triples per phase to reduce corona and energy loss towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com<ref>{{cite web|title=towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overhead_power_line|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11- | ===== - Carries '''one or two circuits''', each with ''three'' phase conductors, often bundled in doubles or triples per phase to reduce corona and energy loss towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com<ref>{{cite web|title=towerproduct.en.made-in-china.com|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overhead_power_line|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. ===== | ||
* You’ll see distinct '''cross-arms''' extending from the tower’s top to support these conductors — either stacked vertically or arranged horizontally en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11- | * You’ll see distinct '''cross-arms''' extending from the tower’s top to support these conductors — either stacked vertically or arranged horizontally en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>. | ||
===== - Towers are '''much taller and wider''' than standard distribution poles due to: - Increased insulation needs - Larger right‑of‑way clearances (≈200 ft for 765 kV) en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11- | ===== - Towers are '''much taller and wider''' than standard distribution poles due to: - Increased insulation needs - Larger right‑of‑way clearances (≈200 ft for 765 kV) en.wikipedia.org<ref>{{cite web|title=en.wikipedia.org|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_tower|publisher=en.wikipedia.org|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>indigrid.co.in<ref>{{cite web|title=indigrid.co.in|url=https://www.indigrid.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/JTCL_Technical-Report.pdf|publisher=indigrid.co.in|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref>megatro.cn<ref>{{cite web|title=megatro.cn|url=https://web.ecs.baylor.edu/faculty/grady/_13_EE392J_2_Spring11_AEP_Transmission_Facts.pdf|publisher=web.ecs.baylor.edu|access-date=2025-11-19}}</ref> ===== | ||
* These structures dominate the landscape—highly visible from hundreds of feet away. | * These structures dominate the landscape—highly visible from hundreds of feet away. | ||