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User: Can you challenge me on the points I make here with a view to me finding better ways of expressing them?[edit | edit source]
Can you challenge me on the points I make here with a view to me finding better ways of expressing them? These two quotes are from a recent article by Richard Chinn in the latest issue of TUG:
"Emergent language in English Language Teaching refers to any unplanned language that arises naturally during classroom interactions."
(I don't think the word 'unplanned' is needed here. Alternatively, 'communicative use of language' would be better to indicate that it is not the language produced as part of a grammar, vocabulary or pronunciation exercise.)
"Emergent language is a dynamic and organic aspect of language learning that occurs when students and teachers engage in real-time communication."
Emergent language is the language that students use communicatively either in spontaneous speaking or in writing as long as the aim is to communicate or share their ideas or points of view. It can be exploited by the teacher to help individuals or the whole class learn some aspect of the language that the teacher considers worth spending his, the individual's or the class's time on.
But even if it isn't exploited, it is still 'emergent language'. Using 'emergent language' is simply what learners of a language do when they use the language communicatively. Using the language even without any pedagogical feedback is part of the process of learning a language.
Is a teacher needed to exploit emergent language? No, nowadays emergent language can be exploited by learners themselves because they can ask GenAI for responses of many different types to their spoken or written output. The types of response can be limited to corrections, but is much more productive when learners ask for alternative ways of saying what they were saying that are better or simply equally good ways. These may involve individual words or sentences, but can refer to the whole 'text'.
Learners would do well to experiment with using different prompts asking for different types of feedback and seeing which they prefer. This may vary depending on 'text'.
Some proficient speakers of a language may ask for suggestions on 'how to make this email sound more professional, or appropriate.' If they simply copy and paste the new text into their email, they will learn little unless they try to write a similar email on another occasion without needing to ask for help from GenAI.
Task repetition is a way of trying to put into practice what one has learnt from feedback from whatever source. How exactly similar the task should be is a matter for debate, but in the case of a spoken task recorded by a student in class, the repeated task can be exactly the same if it is a monologue.
Should the task repetition be done immediately, or after a while? How long should that while be and should the task be repeated again and again at longer and longer intervals? Any sportsman or woman would answer that practice makes perfect, but language learners and players would all agree that enough practice is enough and they relish the thought of applying their improved skills in a new situation or contest.
Can learners learn to seek feedback and use it effectively without need of a teacher? Maybe, but a teacher can make that learning happen faster and more efficiently and should be part of any teacher's aims and responsibilities for encouraging learners to become autonomous life-long learners.
Assistant: Absolutely — you’re raising very interesting points here, but some of them could be tightened or sharpened to make your…[edit | edit source]
Absolutely — you’re raising very interesting points here, but some of them could be tightened or sharpened to make your argument more persuasive and precise. Here are some challenges and suggestions to help you refine the way you express them:
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You argue that "unplanned" is unnecessary and suggest "communicative use of language" instead. Challenge: Is "communicative use of language" too broad?
- It risks including all language used communicatively, even scripted or rehearsed speech, which might not always count as "emergent."
- "Unplanned" highlights spontaneity — a key feature of emergent language. Could you refine your alternative to capture this? Perhaps something like:
This keeps your point (distinguishing it from grammar exercises) but preserves the sense that it’s not pre-scripted.
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This is clear, but a bit wordy. Challenge: Can you make this more concise and sharper? For example:
This preserves the key idea and reads more smoothly.
You rightly point out that emergent language exists whether or not the teacher chooses to exploit it.[edit | edit source]
Challenge: Could you separate these two ideas more explicitly? Right now, they run together.
- First establish the existence of emergent language as a fact.
- Then argue that exploitation (pedagogical intervention) is optional but valuable. For example:
This draws a sharper line between emergence and exploitation.
You say:[edit | edit source]
This is a strong point, but could be clearer and more structured. Challenge: Could you make the argument more balanced? Right now it sounds like GenAI could replace teachers. Maybe something like:
This positions GenAI as complementary, not a replacement — which might strengthen your point when speaking to teachers.
You say learners should experiment with prompts.[edit | edit source]
Challenge: Could you turn this into a more concrete suggestion? For instance:
This makes your advice more practical and actionable.
You raise good questions about when and how often to repeat a task.[edit | edit source]
Challenge: Could you tighten this by explicitly linking it to research or principles? For instance, referencing spaced repetition or deliberate practice might strengthen your argument. Example revision:
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This is well put, but you could strengthen the argument by ending with a more memorable statement:
This frames teacher involvement as empowering rather than gatekeeping.
Would you like me to rewrite your entire text as a tighter, more persuasive article (keeping your arguments intact but polishing expression and structure), or would you prefer to keep it in this challenge–response format so you can refine it step by step?
User: These two quotes are from a recent article by Richard Chinn in the latest issue of TUG:[edit | edit source]
These two quotes are from a recent article by Richard Chinn in the latest issue of TUG:
"Emergent language in English Language Teaching refers to any unplanned language that arises naturally during classroom interactions."
Emergent language in English Language Teaching refers to language that arises spontaneously during communicative activities in or out of the classroom.
"Emergent language is a dynamic and organic aspect of language learning that occurs when students and teachers engage in real-time communication."
Emergent language is the language that students use communicatively either in spontaneous speaking or in writing as long as the aim is to communicate or share their ideas or points of view. It can be exploited by the teacher to help individuals or the whole class learn some aspect of the language that the teacher considers worth spending his, the individual's or the class's time on.
⦁ Change to: ⦁ Emergent language is any language that students produce spontaneously to express ideas, whether spoken or written. It can be exploited by the teacher to help individuals or the whole class learn some aspect of the language that the teacher considers worth spending his, the individual's or the class's time on.
But even if it isn't exploited, it is still 'emergent language'. Using 'emergent language' is simply what learners of a language do when they use the language communicatively. Using the language even without any pedagogical feedback is part of the process of learning a language.
⦁ Change to: Emergent language exists whenever learners communicate spontaneously. Teachers may choose to exploit it for pedagogical purposes, but its occurrence is independent of teacher intervention. Using the language even without any pedagogical feedback is part of the process of learning a language.
(Many ELT writers define emergent language in relation to how teachers work with it. If you broaden the definition to include any communicative use, you’re moving away from how the term is conventionally understood. According to ChatGPT)
Is a teacher needed to exploit emergent language? No, nowadays emergent language can be exploited by learners themselves because they can ask GenAI for responses of many different types to their spoken or written output. The types of response can be limited to corrections, but is much more productive when learners ask for alternative ways of saying what they were saying that are better or simply equally good ways. These may involve individual words or sentences, but can refer to the whole 'text'.
⦁ Change to: ⦁ While teachers traditionally guided learners in noticing and refining emergent language, GenAI tools now allow learners to do much of this autonomously. However, a skilled teacher can still help learners to choose the most effective prompts, to interpret feedback, and to apply what they learn efficiently. The types of response can be limited to corrections, but is much more productive when learners ask for alternative ways of saying what they were saying that are better or simply equally good ways. These may involve individual words or sentences, but can refer to the whole 'text'.
(Traditional exploitation involves mediation: noticing, scaffolding, and prioritising. AI responses may overwhelm, distract, or de-contextualise. According to ChatGPT
Learners would do well to experiment with using different prompts asking for different types of feedback and seeing which they prefer. This may vary depending on 'text'.
Change to: Learners would do well to experiment with using different prompts asking for different types of feedback and seeing which they prefer. This may vary depending on 'text'. They might try prompts such as 'Give me three alternative ways to say this' or 'How could I make this more polite?' and compare which responses feel most useful for their goals.
Eliminate: Some proficient speakers of a language may ask for suggestions on 'how to make this email sound more professional, or appropriate.' If they simply copy and paste the new text into their email, they will learn little unless they try to write a similar email on another occasion without needing to ask for help from GenAI.
Task repetition is a way of trying to put into practice what one has learnt from feedback from whatever source. How exactly similar the task should be is a matter for debate, but in the case of a spoken task recorded by a student in class, the repeated task can be exactly the same if it is a monologue.
Should the task repetition be done immediately, or after a while? How long should that while be and should the task be repeated again and again at longer and longer intervals? Any sportsman or woman would answer that practice makes perfect, but language learners and players would all agree that enough practice is enough and they relish the thought of applying their improved skills in a new situation or contest.
⦁ Change to: ⦁ Repeating a task immediately after feedback can help consolidate learning, while repeating it again after a delay — as in spaced practice — can strengthen retention. The ideal timing and frequency will vary, but a combination of immediate and delayed repetition may be most effective.
Can learners learn to seek feedback and use it effectively without the need of a teacher? Maybe, but a teacher can make that learning happen faster and more efficiently and should be part of any teacher's aims and responsibilities for encouraging learners to become autonomous life-long learners.
⦁ Change to: ⦁ Is it possible for learners to develop the ability to seek and utilize feedback independently, without the guidance of a teacher? Potentially, yes; however, the involvement of a teacher can accelerate and enhance this learning process. Consequently, fostering learners' autonomy and promoting their development as lifelong learners should be integral objectives and responsibilities within any educator's role.
Assistant: This is looking much tighter and clearer already — you’ve taken my earlier suggestions on board well.[edit | edit source]
This is looking much tighter and clearer already — you’ve taken my earlier suggestions on board well. I’d like to challenge and fine-tune a few of your latest revisions so they read even more smoothly and convincingly. Here’s some targeted feedback and possible tweaks:
✅ Your version:[edit | edit source]
💡 Challenge: This is very clear, but “in or out of the classroom” feels slightly redundant and weakens the rhythm. You could tighten it to:
This keeps it sharp and universal — spontaneous communication can happen anywhere, so you don’t need to specify.
✅ Your version:[edit | edit source]
💡 Challenge: The phrase "worth spending his, the individual's or the class's time on" feels awkward and a bit dated (especially "his"). Try:
This removes unnecessary repetition and improves flow.
✅ Your version:[edit | edit source]
💡 Challenge: This is very good — you’ve made the distinction clear. You could make the last sentence slightly smoother:
This keeps the meaning but reads more crisply.
✅ Your version:[edit | edit source]
💡 Challenge: This is strong, but the middle sentence is a little long and slightly clunky. Try:
This improves readability and removes repetition ("better or simply equally good ways").
✅ Your version:[edit | edit source]
💡 Challenge: Very good, but the phrase "depending on 'text'" might puzzle some readers. Maybe:
This makes it a bit more explicit and polished.
✅ Your version:[edit | edit source]
💡 Challenge: This is concise and well-phrased. You might just add one short bridging phrase to link back to learner motivation:
This reminds readers that task repetition isn’t just mechanical — it also relates to motivation.
✅ Your version:[edit | edit source]
💡 Challenge: Very strong — I’d just make "utilize" into "use" (plainer, more natural in British English) and maybe simplify the final sentence slightly:
This keeps your message but makes it a little more direct.
Would you like me to integrate all these tweaks into a single fully revised version of your text so you can see how it reads as a whole? This might make it easier to judge flow and coherence.
User: Yes[edit | edit source]
Yes
Assistant: Here’s a fully revised, polished version of your text with all the tweaks integrated so it flows smoothly as a single p…[edit | edit source]
Here’s a fully revised, polished version of your text with all the tweaks integrated so it flows smoothly as a single piece:
Emergent Language: A Broader View
Emergent language in English Language Teaching refers to language that arises spontaneously during communicative activities.
Emergent language is any language that students produce spontaneously to express ideas, whether spoken or written. Teachers can choose to focus on it to help individuals or the whole class develop aspects of language they consider valuable.
Emergent language exists whenever learners communicate spontaneously. Teachers may choose to exploit it for pedagogical purposes, but its occurrence is independent of teacher intervention. Even without feedback, using the language is part of the learning process.
While teachers traditionally guided learners in noticing and refining emergent language, GenAI tools now allow learners to do much of this autonomously. A skilled teacher, however, can still help learners choose effective prompts, interpret feedback, and apply what they learn efficiently. Although learners can ask for simple corrections, it is often more productive to request alternative ways of expressing the same idea — at the word, sentence, or text level — so they can compare and choose the most suitable form.
Learners would do well to experiment with different prompts to explore various types of feedback and see which they prefer. The most useful approach may depend on the type of text or task. For example, they might try prompts such as "Give me three alternative ways to say this" or "How could I make this more polite?" and compare which responses best meet their needs.
Repeating a task immediately after feedback can help consolidate learning, while repeating it again after a delay — as in spaced practice — can strengthen retention. The ideal timing and frequency will vary, but a combination of immediate and delayed repetition may be most effective and keep learners engaged.
Is it possible for learners to develop the ability to seek and use feedback independently, without the guidance of a teacher? Potentially, yes; however, teacher involvement can accelerate and enhance this process. Helping learners become autonomous and develop as lifelong learners should be a key aim of any educator.
This version keeps your arguments intact but makes them more concise, polished, and easier to read. It also has a slightly more professional tone, which strengthens your case if you plan to share it in writing or present it at conferences.
Would you like me to add a short introductory paragraph that frames why this broader definition of emergent language matters (e.g., the implications for teachers in an age of GenAI)? That could give the piece a stronger hook for readers.
User: OK[edit | edit source]
OK
Assistant: Great — here’s the full text with a short introductory paragraph added to frame your argument and draw readers in:[edit | edit source]
Great — here’s the full text with a short introductory paragraph added to frame your argument and draw readers in:
Emergent Language: A Broader View
Emergent language has long been a focus of English Language Teaching, but it is often defined narrowly in terms of what teachers notice and work with during a lesson. This article argues for a broader understanding: emergent language should include any spontaneous, communicative language that learners produce — whether or not a teacher chooses to exploit it. In today’s world, where learners can use GenAI tools to analyse and refine their own output, this wider view has important implications for both classroom practice and learner autonomy.
Emergent language in English Language Teaching refers to language that arises spontaneously during communicative activities.
Emergent language is any language that students produce spontaneously to express ideas, whether spoken or written. Teachers can choose to focus on it to help individuals or the whole class develop aspects of language they consider valuable.
Emergent language exists whenever learners communicate spontaneously. Teachers may choose to exploit it for pedagogical purposes, but its occurrence is independent of teacher intervention. Even without feedback, using the language is part of the learning process.
While teachers traditionally guided learners in noticing and refining emergent language, GenAI tools now allow learners to do much of this autonomously. A skilled teacher, however, can still help learners choose effective prompts, interpret feedback, and apply what they learn efficiently. Although learners can ask for simple corrections, it is often more productive to request alternative ways of expressing the same idea — at the word, sentence, or text level — so they can compare and choose the most suitable form.
Learners would do well to experiment with different prompts to explore various types of feedback and see which they prefer. The most useful approach may depend on the type of text or task. For example, they might try prompts such as "Give me three alternative ways to say this" or "How could I make this more polite?" and compare which responses best meet their needs.
Repeating a task immediately after feedback can help consolidate learning, while repeating it again after a delay — as in spaced practice — can strengthen retention. The ideal timing and frequency will vary, but a combination of immediate and delayed repetition may be most effective and keep learners engaged.
Is it possible for learners to develop the ability to seek and use feedback independently, without the guidance of a teacher? Potentially, yes; however, teacher involvement can accelerate and enhance this process. Helping learners become autonomous and develop as lifelong learners should be a key aim of any educator.
This intro sets up why your rethinking of “emergent language” is significant and positions the rest of the piece as forward-looking — especially relevant for teachers navigating the shift to AI-assisted learning.
Would you like me to also suggest a stronger, more engaging title (something that would catch the attention of teachers at a conference or in a journal)?
User: OK[edit | edit source]
OK
Assistant: Here are some stronger, more engaging title suggestions you could consider — each with a slightly different emphasis, d…[edit | edit source]
Here are some stronger, more engaging title suggestions you could consider — each with a slightly different emphasis, depending on the audience you want to reach:
- Forward-Looking and Provocative
- "Rethinking Emergent Language: Beyond Teacher Intervention in the Age of AI"
- "Emergent Language Is Everywhere: Why Teachers Should Expand Their Definition"
- Practical and Teacher-Focused
- "Helping Learners Notice and Exploit Emergent Language — With or Without a Teacher"
- "Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy"
- Inspirational / Reflective
- "When Language Emerges: Guiding Learners Towards Independence"
- "From Classroom to Chatbot: The Evolving Role of Teachers in Exploiting Emergent Language"
- Punchy and Conference-Friendly
- "Who Owns Emergent Language? Teachers, Learners, and GenAI"
- "Emergent Language Without Borders: Expanding How We See and Use It"
Would you like me to suggest a short subtitle as well (one sentence under the title) to make it even more appealing for a conference talk or article? This can clarify the scope — e.g., mentioning task repetition, GenAI, and learner autonomy.
User: I like "Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy" can you write a subtitle[edit | edit source]
I like "Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy" can you write a subtitle
Assistant: Absolutely — here are a few subtitle options that would pair well with "Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities …[edit | edit source]
Absolutely — here are a few subtitle options that would pair well with "Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy" and clearly signal what readers can expect:
- "Exploring how spontaneous language, AI feedback, and task repetition can foster independent, lifelong learning."
- "Why a broader definition of emergent language matters in an era of AI-assisted learning."
- "From noticing to refining: helping learners use AI tools to take charge of their language development."
- "Combining teacher guidance and AI support to build confident, autonomous communicators."
- "How GenAI can complement teacher intervention and empower learners to refine their own language use."
Would you like me to make the subtitle sound more academic (for a journal article) or more practical and inviting (for a workshop or conference talk)?
User: If I add the URL of my blog, can you try to replicate my voice in a new version of this article?[edit | edit source]
If I add the URL of my blog, can you try to replicate my voice in a new version of this article? https://onewaytotefl.blogspot.com/
Assistant: Here’s a version of your article, “Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy”, rewritten in a…[edit | edit source]
Here’s a version of your article, “Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy”, rewritten in a style inspired by your blog (One Way to TEFL). I aim to replicate your voice — clear, practical, reflective, grounded in classroom/AI practice — while keeping your arguments tight and reader-friendly.
Let me know how close this feels to you, and I’ll adjust further.
Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy Exploring how spontaneous language, AI feedback, and task repetition can foster independent, lifelong learning.
Emergent language is often defined by what teachers notice and act on in class. But in today’s world — where learners can use AI tools to analyse and refine their own output — we need a broader view. We should see emergent language as any spontaneous communicative language learners create, whether or not a teacher ever intervenes.
Emergent language in English Language Teaching refers to language that arises spontaneously during communicative activities.
It is any language that students produce without prior planning, in order to express ideas, whether spoken or written. Teachers may choose to focus on it — to help individuals or a whole class explore vocabulary, grammar, phrasing — but emergent language doesn’t depend on teacher action.
Emergent language exists whenever learners communicate spontaneously. Even without feedback, using the language is part of learning.
Traditionally, teachers guided learners to notice, scaffold, and refine emergent language. But now GenAI tools let learners take more of that role themselves. A thoughtful teacher still has much to offer: helping students frame effective prompts, interpret feedback, and put what they learn into practice. Learners can ask for corrections, but often it’s more productive to ask for alternative ways of saying the same thing — whether at the word, sentence, or text level — and to compare.
Learners would do well to experiment with prompts that elicit different types of feedback. The best prompt may depend on the text or task. For example:
- “Give me three alternative ways to say this.”
- “How could I make this more polite?” Then compare which responses are most helpful for your goals.
Repetition matters too. Repeating a task immediately after feedback can help embed the new form; repeating again after a delay — as in spaced practice — can strengthen retention. The ideal timing and frequency vary, but mixing immediate and delayed repetition seems most effective and keeps learners engaged.
Can learners learn to seek and use feedback independently, without a teacher? Possibly — yet teacher involvement still speeds up and strengthens that process. Helping learners develop autonomy and guiding them toward becoming lifelong learners should remain central to our role as educators.
If you like, I can produce — in your voice — a full article ready for your blog (with a short intro, conclusion, examples, subheadings) using this version as a foundation. Would you like me to do that?
User: Yes please[edit | edit source]
Yes please
Assistant: Perfect — here’s a blog-ready version of your article in a style that matches the reflective, practical voice on your O…[edit | edit source]
Perfect — here’s a blog-ready version of your article in a style that matches the reflective, practical voice on your One Way to TEFL blog. I’ve added subheadings, examples, and a short conclusion so it reads naturally for your audience.
Emergent Language and GenAI: New Opportunities for Learner Autonomy[edit | edit source]
Exploring how spontaneous language, AI feedback, and task repetition can foster independent, lifelong learning.
Broadening the definition[edit | edit source]
Emergent language is often defined by what teachers notice and work with during a lesson. It’s usually tied to how a teacher reacts to something a student says in real time — for example, picking up on a phrase, drawing attention to it, and building an activity around it.
But in practice, emergent language isn’t owned by the teacher. It’s any spontaneous communicative language that learners produce, whether or not it’s noticed, corrected, or exploited. And that broader view is more useful now than ever, because learners have tools at their disposal that can help them exploit emergent language for themselves.
What emergent language is[edit | edit source]
Emergent language is the language learners produce spontaneously to express ideas. It can be spoken or written, in or out of class.
Teachers can choose to work with it — by highlighting an interesting word, unpacking a grammar point, or showing alternative ways of phrasing. But emergent language doesn’t depend on teacher action. It exists whenever learners communicate in real time. Even without feedback, using the language is part of the learning process.
From teacher-led to learner-driven[edit | edit source]
Traditionally, it’s been the teacher’s role to guide learners in noticing and refining emergent language — through scaffolding, feedback, and prioritising what’s worth focusing on.
But today learners have access to GenAI tools that can play part of this role. They can paste in something they’ve written or record themselves speaking, then ask the AI to respond in useful ways.
A teacher still has a role here: helping learners ask better questions, interpret responses, and decide what to take away. For instance, a learner might ask for a correction, but a more productive prompt might be:
- “Give me three alternative ways to say this.”
- “How could I make this sound more polite?”
These prompts don’t just fix mistakes; they show learners new choices.
Experimenting with prompts[edit | edit source]
Learners should experiment with prompts and see which kinds of feedback they find most helpful. The “best” response often depends on the type of text or task. Sometimes a short alternative is enough; at other times, it helps to see a reworked version of the whole text.
This experimentation is part of developing autonomy. Learners discover how they like to learn, and what makes feedback stick.
Task repetition and practice[edit | edit source]
Once learners have feedback, the next step is practice. Repeating a task immediately after feedback helps consolidate learning. Repeating it again later — as in spaced practice — strengthens retention.
There’s no single formula for timing or frequency, but a combination of immediate and delayed repetition works well. The important thing is that learners feel they’re progressing, not just repeating for the sake of it.
The teacher’s role[edit | edit source]
Can learners do all this on their own? Possibly. But teachers still add value. They can help learners become more efficient, avoid overwhelm, and focus on what’s most useful.
Our aim shouldn’t be to keep control of emergent language, but to help learners take ownership of it. Encouraging learners to notice, reflect, and act on their own emergent language — with or without AI — is part of preparing them to be lifelong learners.
Final thought[edit | edit source]
Emergent language happens whenever learners use the language to communicate. Teachers can work with it, but learners can also exploit it themselves — especially with the support of AI. If we, as teachers, help them develop the skills to use feedback effectively, we’re not just teaching language for the moment. We’re equipping learners with habits and strategies they can use for a lifetime.
Would you like me to also suggest one or two concrete classroom tasks (simple, adaptable activities) that illustrate how a teacher could combine emergent language with GenAI use, so your readers have something immediately practical to try?
References[edit | edit source]
- ↑ "Emergent language discussion". ChatGPT. Retrieved 2025-11-18.