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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Article Summary Request}} ''This conversation was exported from ChatGPT''<ref>{{cite web|title=Article Summary Request|url=https://chatgpt.com/share/6972f462-15b8-8004-8a22-b6680d6cd625|publisher=ChatGPT|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> == gpt-5-2 == === User: What does this article say? === What does this article say? https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/2026/01/21/poison-fountain-and-the-rise-of-an-underground-resistance-to-ai/ === Assistant: Here’s a clear summary of the Forbes article “Poison Fountain and the Rise of an Underground Resistance to AI” by Craig… === Here’s a clear summary of the Forbes article “Poison Fountain and the Rise of an Underground Resistance to AI” by Craig Smith (January 21, 2026): ===== 🧠 Main Idea ===== The article covers a shadowy, anti-AI movement called Poison Fountain, which is intentionally trying to disrupt and damage AI development rather than improve or regulate it. Forbes<ref>{{cite web|title=Forbes|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/|publisher=forbes.com|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> ===== 🧨 What Poison Fountain Is ===== * Not a corporate or academic effort — it’s described as an underground resistance made up of technologists and activists opposed to the rapid progress of artificial intelligence. Forbes<ref>{{cite web|title=Forbes|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/|publisher=forbes.com|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> * The project includes a manifesto and public instructions aimed at sabotaging AI systems rather than engaging constructively with ethical or safety issues. Forbes<ref>{{cite web|title=Forbes|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/|publisher=forbes.com|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> ===== 🎯 What They’re Trying to Do ===== * The group’s goal appears to be to hurt AI performance by poisoning the training data—i.e., corrupting datasets so that models learn incorrect patterns and behave poorly. Forbes<ref>{{cite web|title=Forbes|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/2026/01/21/poison-fountain-and-the-rise-of-an-underground-resistance-to-ai/|publisher=forbes.com|date=2026-01-21|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> * The idea is that you don’t have to corrupt much data to cause notable problems in large language models and other AI. Forbes<ref>{{cite web|title=Forbes|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/2026/01/21/poison-fountain-and-the-rise-of-an-underground-resistance-to-ai/|publisher=forbes.com|date=2026-01-21|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> ===== 📌 Tone & Context ===== * The article frames this as something like a modern Luddite movement — comparing it to historical anti-technology activism but now targeting AI instead of industrial machinery. Muck Rack<ref>{{cite web|title=Muck Rack|url=https://muckrack.com/craigss|publisher=Muck Rack|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> * It suggests that although the motives might be rooted in concern about AI’s impacts, the tactics are more destructive and counterproductive rather than a serious safety or policy engagement. Forbes<ref>{{cite web|title=Forbes|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/|publisher=forbes.com|access-date=2026-01-23}}</ref> If you’d like, I can fetch more detail on what Poison Fountain’s manifesto says or how experts think this could affect AI development. === User: Will they be successful? === Will they be successful? === Assistant: Short answer: probably not in the way they intend. === Short answer: probably not in the way they intend. Longer answer, broken down: ===== Why they’re unlikely to “stop” AI ===== * Modern models are resilient. Large-scale training pipelines already assume noisy, adversarial, and low-quality data. Data deduplication, filtering, ensemble sourcing, and post-training alignment all blunt classic poisoning attacks. * Scale works against them. Poisoning a meaningful fraction of training data at internet scale is extremely hard. You don’t just need bad data — you need targeted, persistent, undetected bad data. * Economic incentives are massive. AI development isn’t a fragile hobbyist ecosystem; it’s driven by governments, defense, healthcare, and trillion-dollar companies. Resistance increases investment in robustness rather than slowing progress. ===== Where they might have some impact ===== * Niche or open datasets. Smaller academic or open-source datasets are more vulnerable than closed, curated corporate pipelines. * Public trust narratives. Even limited attacks can be amplified into perceived risk, fueling regulation debates, headlines, and caution. * Arms-race acceleration. Ironically, poisoning efforts often push better tooling: provenance tracking, watermarking, synthetic-data detection, and secure data pipelines. ===== The historical pattern ===== Movements like this tend to: * Fail tactically (they don’t halt the technology) * Succeed symbolically (they shape discourse, fear, and policy) * Backfire technically (forcing systems to become more robust) Think of it less like “sabotage” and more like stress-testing without permission. The net effect is usually stronger systems, not weaker ones. ===== The real risk ===== The bigger danger isn’t that Poison Fountain cripples AI — it’s that misattributed failures (bugs, hallucinations, bias) get blamed on shadowy sabotage, muddying accountability and slowing legitimate safety work. If you want, I can: * Compare this to past tech-resistance movements (Luddites, DRM cracking, anti-GMO sabotage) * Break down what actual effective AI resistance would look like (spoiler: it’s policy, labor, and economics — not data poisoning) * Analyze whether this creates meaningful legal or security pressure for companies Just say the word. == References == <references /> [[Category:ChatGPT Shares]] [[Category:openai]]
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