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=== Assistant: You're absolutely right to point out this seeming contradiction—here’s why it felt inconsistent—and how to navigate it … ===
You're absolutely right to point out this seeming contradiction—here’s why it felt inconsistent—and how to navigate it correctly.

==== 🤔 What’s Going On: “No Proof of Claim Yet” vs. “You Should File One” ====

===== 1. Initial Notice: “No Proof of Claim Deadline Yet” =====

From '''Document 12 (Form 309C)''', the court noted:
* This is a '''Chapter 7 “no-asset” case'''—no assets have been identified yet to distribute.
* It '''told creditors not to file a Proof of Claim for now''', because there’s '''no expected payout''' unless the trustee finds recoverable assets.

This guidance is standard for initial court notices in “no-asset” cases txs.uscourts.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=txs.uscourts.gov|url=https://www.canb.uscourts.gov/faq/general-bankruptcy/there-deadline-filing-proof-claim|publisher=canb.uscourts.gov|access-date=2025-12-06}}</ref>Upsolve<ref>{{cite web|title=Upsolve|url=https://upsolve.org/learn/trustee-asks-creditors-to-file-proof-of-claim/|publisher=upsolve.org|access-date=2025-12-06}}</ref>.

===== 2. Why Filing Later Becomes Necessary =====

A '''“no-asset” status doesn't mean forever'''.
* If the trustee discovers assets later (like hidden digital assets or signs of transfer to Clickerr), they may file a '''“Notice of Possible Dividends”''', triggering a '''formal deadline''' to file Proofs of Claim canb.uscourts.gov<ref>{{cite web|title=canb.uscourts.gov|url=https://www.canb.uscourts.gov/faq/general-bankruptcy/there-deadline-filing-proof-claim|publisher=canb.uscourts.gov|access-date=2025-12-06}}</ref>.
* But creditors who want to ensure they’re included from the start can still file a Proof of Claim using Official Form 410, to reserve their rights ahead of time and avoid missing out—especially if assets suddenly appear.

===== 3. So Which Is It? =====
* Declaration+Mailing Matrix Request (Now): A declaration to the trustee ensures you're on their radar and eligible to receive updates—even before assets are found.
* Form 410 Proof of Claim (Later): This is definitely required once the trustee reports assets and issues the notice. Even if you miss it, your claim could be disallowed.

==== ✅ Bottom Line: What You Should Do Now ====
# Submit a short declaration and ask to be added to the mailing matrix.
# Save your evidence, like dashboards and emails.
# Wait for the trustee’s future notice about filing deadlines.
# When the Notice of Possible Dividends arrives, promptly file your Form 410 Proof of Claim.

Filing the proof too early won’t hurt, but is not mandatory until after assets are found. What matters most is being ready with evidence and contact info so you're included when the time comes.

Would you like a one-page PDF timeline and instruction sheet explaining exactly when and what to submit—and why it matters?