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=== User: Captain Blue quoted Loctarjay saying "Another reason why OP is incorrect is his endless amount of assumptions: ===
Captain Blue quoted Loctarjay saying "Another reason why OP is incorrect is his endless amount of assumptions:
* Game companies benefit and earn from having cheaters in their game, which is why they don't do anything about it"
To which Captain Blue responded by saying: "How do you qualify this as an assumption and not a logical conclusion?

Cheaters are paying customers. Knowledge of how bad cheating is will drive legit players away. These are not assumptions than stating facts and understanding consequence. It's a critical thought rather than an assumption. We have lot of evidence that cheating is bigger than ever and naturally companies care about profit fundamentally.

You also skewered the framing of my position which is a strawman argument as saying that "companies benefit from cheaters" which is misrepresentation. It's not that companies benefit from them it's that they exist and they are paying customers. Stopping all cheating would drive away cheaters = loss of money and letting the public know how bad cheating is will drive away players = loss of money. So the only way companies can make profit is as follows.

You have to push anti cheat to force cheaters to subtle cheat by banning aggressive "rage" cheaters. This makes cheating harder to detect for the average player but always cheaters to cheat. Anyone who "rage" cheats can be banned and used as propaganda to make the the legit players feel something is happening.

Then companies never talk too much about cheating and let the cheaters gas light and control narratives when people complain about cheating by saying skill issue, bad etc etc. This will create a climate where cheaters can cheat and legit players get robbed and the company can continue to make money from both sides as long as players feel they are not being cheated."

Then Captain Blue quoted Loctarjay saying "Ultimately cheating has major financial consequences with billions in lost revenue annually according to Juniper Research analysis. Discouraged players quit games infested with cheaters, taking their wallets with them."
To this Captain Blue responded by saying:
"So you agree cheating is rampant now? Weird that you would support me to argue against me.

The counter argument here is..... If people already leave and not pay because of cheating how does banning the people who are cheating increase profit? If it got out things were that bad wouldn't the rest of the remaining legit players also leave?

So all the same arguments still apply except you've just confirmed that cheating is really bad."