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=== User: Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "But we know cheat selling makes a lot of money." === Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "But we know cheat selling makes a lot of money." Loctarjay responded: "And through the studies shown by websites such as gamespress, irdeto, sciencedirect and such, we also know that the gaming industry suffers from having cheaters roam around. So selling cheats = profit Gaming containing cheaters = loss of profit The fact that you started your entire response by ignoring what i said and then following it up woth a long paragraph justifying nothingness and puts a very, very, VERY poor foundation for what you say nextπ€¦ " Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "We know that hundreds of thousands near millions of accounts get banned in games yearly" Loctarjay reponded: "With absolutely 0 evidence on how many of those bans are accounts belong to the same person, so the bans might be in the millions but it gives 0 indication of the true number of individuals cheaters" Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "But we know cheat selling makes a lot of money. We know that hundreds of thousands near millions of accounts get banned in games yearly. We know that cheating has advanced to such a level that heuristic based anti cheats are no longer effective. AI cheats, Overlays, DMA and other hardware based cheating are more common and affordable than ever before. We know that many cheaters have won tournaments in games like Apex Legends. Cheating on YouTube has blown up over the past 4 years or so with increasing reporting of cheaters across all games" To which Loctarjay responded: "Irrelevant information as it does not clarify anything about how many different cheaters there, only goes to show that "prevention falls far behind"" Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "Whole games were shut down due to rampant cheating in The Cycle Frontier. As someone who played that game regularly feels little difference in the suspicious deaths in that game to ARC Raiders or any PvP game these days. " Loctarjay responded: "Your anecdotal experience means nothing, seeing that I can give ingame mechanics in Hunt and Arc to argue your evidence is insufficient and you will dismiss it all and demand your anectodal experience is the only truth" Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "We know there discord servers full of cheaters thousands strong and forums full of cheaters with hundreds of thousands of posts in them." Loctarjay responded: "You say that, yet you cannot prove that these "discord servers" contain the amount of people you demand that must make up the overall playerbase for all games For all you know, there are 1000 people in the discord server for arc-cheats, which is 0.3% of the current peak that is 318000π€· " Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "None of this is speculation but hard facts that were know to be true. It all points to masses of people cheating. There is no evidence that hardly anyone cheats. All known facts suggest otherwise" Loctarjay responded: "Quote me saying those things are not happening..... Quote me saying that "hardly anyone cheats"....... Right now !!!!!!!! Otherwise you are misrepresenting what I am arguing because you have a hateful agenda against me Because you came with the most blatant strawman and so insanely misrepresent what I am saying, before you even began quoating anything I actually said, I will just ignore you.... I already informed you that starting with lies sets a very, very, very poor foundation for what comes next... You continued with even more lies and never argued against anything I said, in fact, what you did do was strawman what I said to make it easier for you to argue against"
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