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=== Assistant: Got it. === Got it. This helps a lot π Based on the tag in your photo, this is a Scag Turf Tiger II (STTII) with a 61" deck and Briggs & Stratton Vanguard 40 HP EFI engine. Below is a clear breakdown of the ignition system operation, followed by where to get the correct wiring diagram and what to focus on diagnostically. ==== This is a true ECU-controlled ignition system, not a magneto-style mower ignition. ==== ===== - No kill wire grounding a magneto ===== * No ignition module deciding timing * ECU controls spark timing and coil dwell * 12 V powered coils ===== - ECU (Engine Control Unit) ===== * Crankshaft Position Sensor (CKP) * Two ignition coils (one per cylinder) * Battery, fuses, relays * Safety interlock inputs (via Scag harness) ==== ### ==== * A CKP sensor reads a reluctor wheel on the crankshaft * Produces an AC waveform * ECU uses this for: - Engine speed - Crank position - Spark timing reference β οΈ If CKP is missing β NO SPARK, NO INJECTORS ===== Once ECU sees: ===== * Valid CKP signal * Correct system voltage * Safety inputs satisfied It will: * Calculate ignition timing * Control coil dwell time * Fire coils independently ===== Each ignition coil has: ===== * Battery power (Key ON / RUN) * ECU-controlled ground (driver circuit) Operation: * ECU grounds the coil primary β current builds (dwell) * ECU opens the ground β magnetic field collapses * Spark occurs This is exactly like an automotive COP system, just simpler. ===== Scag does NOT kill spark directly. ===== Instead, safety switches feed inputs that: * Enable or disable ECU operation * Allow or prevent fuel + spark Common inputs: * Seat switch * PTO switch * Brake switch * Neutral switch β οΈ A failed safety input can cause crank/no-start with no spark, even though power and grounds look good. ==== There are two diagrams involved: ==== ===== This shows: ===== * ECU * CKP * Coils * Injectors * Sensors * Power and grounds π Source: * Briggs & Stratton Vanguard EFI Service Manual * Engine model is specific to the 40 HP EFI (not carb) This diagram is engine-only and does not show Scag switches. ===== This shows: ===== * Key switch * PTO switch * Seat switch * Brake switch * ECU enable circuits * Relays and fuses π Source: * Scag Turf Tiger II (STTII) Electrical Diagram * Must match STTII-61V-40BV-EFI Scag diagrams are model-specific and change with EFI vs carb. ==== Since this is EFI, donβt think like a mower β think ECM logic: ==== # Battery voltage under crank # ECU powers & grounds # CKP signal present # Coil power feed # ECU coil control (ground switching) # Injector pulse (proves ECU is alive) # Safety inputs not inhibiting ECU If you want, I can: * Walk you through no-spark diagnostics step-by-step * Help interpret scope patterns on CKP or coil * Tell you exactly where techs get burned on these systems Just tell me what symptom youβre chasing (no spark, intermittent, dies hot, etc.).
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