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Short answer: no, not structurally. Same function, different grammar.

===== - Irish: ''le do thoil'' - Literal: “with your will” → “please” (when asking someone to do/give something). - It’s just a prepositional phrase, no verb. =====
'' French: ''s’il vous plaît'' / Catalan: ''si us plau* - Literal: “if it pleases you”. - These are full clauses with a verb “to please”.

So: all three mean “please”, but
* FR/Cat: “if it pleases you” (conditional clause)
* Irish: “with your will” (prepositional phrase “with your consent/permission”).

===== - le do thoil: - Standard-ish IPA: /lʲə d̪ˠə hɪlʲ/ - Syllables: le · do · thoil =====
* Pitfalls: - Slender l at the end of thoil ([lʲ]), not an English “dark l”. - The th is basically just a soft [h]; you don’t hear a [t].

===== Breakdown of ''le do thoil'': =====
* le = “with” (preposition)
* do = “your” (2sg possessive, causes lenition of following consonant)
'' toil = “will, desire” (feminine noun) → becomes ''thoil* after do

→ Structure: [Prep] + [Poss] + [Noun]
→ Meaning: “with your will” → idiomatically “please”.

Compare with French/Catalan:
* s’il vous plaît = si (if) + il (it) + vous (to you) + plaît (pleases)
* si us plau = si (if) + us (you) + plau (pleases)

These are if-clauses with an actual verb; Irish is just a noun phrase with a preposition.

Related Irish form you’ll also see:
'' ''más é do thoil é* - Literally “if it is your will” → here you do have a clause, and it’s closer structurally to FR/Cat “if it pleases you”.

===== - toil “will, wish” - Old Irish toil “will, desire”. - From Proto-Celtic ''tolyu-, generally linked to PIE ''wel- “to wish, want”. - Cognate set (true relatives): - Latin: velle “to want” → voluntas “will” - French: vouloir, volonté - Spanish: voluntad - English: will (via the same PIE root *wel-) =====

So the “will” in ''le do thoil'' is etymologically the same “will” idea as in voluntad / volonté / will.

===== - Use ''le do thoil'': the “neutral default” polite “please” after a request: - Dún an doras, le do thoil. – “Close the door, please.” =====
'' Use ''más é do thoil é*: more formal/explicit, structurally closer to s’il vous plaît: - Dún an doras, más é do thoil é. – “Close the door, if it is your will / if you please.”

So:
'' Structurally like FR/Cat “if it pleases you”? → No, that’s ''más é do thoil é'', not ''le do thoil*.
* Semantically/functionally? → Yes, all are polite “please” formulas.

===== - le do thoil = “with your will” → “please”. =====
* Structure: Prep + Poss + Noun, no verb.
* FR s’il vous plaît / Cat si us plau = full clause “if it pleases you”.
'' Closer structural match in Irish: ''más é do thoil é*.
* do causes lenition: toil → thoil.
'' toil “will” is related to Latin ''velle'', French ''vouloir'', Spanish ''voluntad'', English ''will*.