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==== ### ==== The event was marketed as a public explanation of platform issues. However, the content includes incriminating admissions of continued operations, technical overlap, and asset control between Cliqly, Conversion House Media (CHM), and emerging brands like Clickerr and MyInboxPro. ===== #### ===== * Jones openly states they charged customers using various names: > * 🔴 Legal Issue: This suggests active use of multiple DBAs and potential shell routing of funds — common in asset shielding. ====== - Jones admits the platform retroactively charged users for months of previously paused billing: > ====== * 🔴 Legal Issue: Retroactive billing without notice, followed by blocking access, is a potential FTC violation and evidence of consumer harm. ====== - Quote: “You can come back anytime. Your list never expires.” ====== * Users were told they could return and resume with the same data and system. * 🔴 Legal Issue: Suggests data (including email lists and accounts) are being preserved — contradicts the bankruptcy claim that no assets exist. ====== - Bobby admits: “You can do a credit swap for commissions… We do them all the time.” ====== * 🔴 Legal Issue: Offering to convert owed commissions into credits in a rebranded system implies that DE Marketing assets (e.g., obligations, credits) are being used to fuel the new brand — supports successor liability. ====== - Jones blames Facebook posts for financial instability and claims it was “too risky” to publicly admit the billing issues: > ====== * 🔴 Legal Issue: This reinforces an intentional lack of transparency, which is relevant for trustee review and Rule 2004 purposes. ====== - Private IPs and platform structure were described as being “in progress” but part of the same delivery and email mechanism used under Cliqly. ====== * 🔴 Legal Issue: Email delivery infrastructure may constitute a digital asset of the estate. ====== - He admits: “We don’t delete your list, we just hide it after 60 or 90 days.” ====== * 🔴 Legal Issue: Retaining and reusing member-generated lists is a key potential bankruptcy asset, which must be disclosed. ===== This transcript directly contradicts DE Marketing LLC’s Chapter 7 bankruptcy claim that there are no assets and no ongoing business operations. Jones’ own statements provide evidence that: ===== * Operations were never truly discontinued. * Critical assets (email lists, platforms, commissions) were preserved or transferred. * The new company (Clickerr) uses the same logic, systems, people, and compensation model — under a different name. ===== : ===== Would you like this red flag summary formatted into a formal Word/PDF document like the others for use in your trustee communication or complaint file?
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