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=== Assistant: 2511141554ET === 251114_1554ET short answer: siad “they” < Middle Irish íat < Old Irish íat (3rd plural pronoun), ultimately from Proto-Celtic *ɸīdat or similar; it’s a very old inherited Celtic plural, not a recent formation. ===== - siad /ʃiəd̪ˠ/ - 3rd person plural subject pronoun: “they”. - Usually used after the verb in normal VSO order: - Labhraíonn siad Gaeilge. – “They speak Irish.” ===== There’s also iad (object / emphatic variant) and emphatic siadsan. ===== Wiktionary gives: ===== '' siad < Middle Irish ''íat*. Old Irish has 3pl pronouns like: * íat (independent / emphatic) “they (pl.)” – usually post-copular / emphatic. Over time: * Old Irish íat > Middle Irish íat (same spelling, evolving phonology). * Consonantisation / reanalysis in early Modern Irish created siad with an onset [ʃ] (analogous to sé, sí), while iad survives as the “bare” vowel-initial form. So synchronically: : ===== Reconstructing plural 3rd-person pronouns is messy, but the consensus is that Old Irish íat continues: ===== '' a Proto-Celtic 3pl demonstrative/pronoun, sometimes reconstructed as something like ''īdat / *ijōs, from PIE deictic elements (same broad family that gives Latin illī, eī, etc.). The important bit for your mental map: * sé / sí and siad / iad are all old inherited Celtic pronominal forms, reshaped analogically in Old/Middle/Modern Irish. * The s- of siad is not original; it’s a later leveling to make the 3pl subject pronoun look like the 3sg ones (sé, sí).
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