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=== Assistant: Yes—this add-on meaningfully changes the “standing objections” landscape, because it introduces new, more specific clai… === Yes—this add-on meaningfully changes the “standing objections” landscape, because it introduces new, more specific claims (word-count ratio + a concrete editing framework + a personal analogy about defensiveness-through-verbosity). Below is the updated map for this addendum only (i.e., what new arguments SReflection added), with statuses based on the thread as you’ve given it. ==== I’m going to split each into (a) the claim and (b) the implied conclusion, because those often have different statuses. ==== ===== SR-A1 (factual): “My post is ~200 words; your reply is in five replies and >2000 words.” ===== * Status: ✅ Unquestioned (nobody has disputed the numbers yet in the provided material) SR-A2 (inference): “This alone should make you step back and give brevity comments weight.” * Status: ⚠️ In question * Standing objection: OP already argued (in his response) that the length was driven by addressing many bad/packed arguments point-by-point, that there’s no time-pressure to reply, and that engaging even one point is acceptable—i.e., word count alone doesn’t prove the reply is illegitimate or “gish gallop.” ===== SR-B1 (personal history): “A mentor told me I wrote too much because I was defensive and worried someone would find a flaw.” ===== * Status: ✅ Unquestioned (it’s a self-report, not challenged) SR-B2 (implied analogy): “You’re doing the same thing (building moats with words out of defensiveness).” * Status: ⚔️ Contested (or, if you prefer stricter: ⚠️ in question) * Why: OP explicitly rejects the “defensive” framing and gives an alternative purpose: critique-of-critique, standards enforcement, and “hole-poking” as method. That directly challenges the analogy. ===== SR-C1: “Writing too much makes your points less accessible to the people you want to reach.” ===== * Status: ⚔️ Contested * Why: OP’s stance is essentially: thoroughness is intentional/necessary for this pinned guide and for rebutting weak arguments; plus other commenters you provided praise the thoroughness and care (so the “less accessible” claim can’t stand as universal). SR-C2: “I locked my ideas away; that defeated the point.” (applied lesson: you may be doing the same) * Status: ⚔️ Contested (same reason: OP denies the premise; third-party praise undercuts “defeats the point” as a general claim) ===== SR-D1: “Cut repeated restatements; once is enough.” ===== * Status: ⚠️ In question * Standing objection: OP already defended repetition as serving a function (pattern-demonstration, addressing multiple weak claims, not cherry-picking). SR-D2 (with a side-note): “Repeated restatements are a common ADHD pattern (that I had too).” * Status: ✅ Unquestioned as a self-report/generalization, but the implied application to OP is ⚔️ Contested (because OP hasn’t accepted the framing and it drifts toward armchair pattern-labeling even if it isn’t a direct diagnosis). SR-D3: “Drop the personal attacks; they’re conversation poison; you’d never say them face-to-face.” * Split it: - SR-D3a (normative): “Drop personal attacks; they poison discourse.” → ✅ Unquestioned (no one has argued “personal attacks are good,” though OP does argue assertiveness is strategic) - SR-D3b (empirical about OP): “You’d never say them to someone’s face.” → ✅ Unquestioned in-thread (but it’s speculative; nobody confirms/disputes) SR-D4: “Compress your idea to its core before sharing; don’t work it out while drafting; you should know what’s key first.” * Status: ✅ Unquestioned (OP hasn’t directly countered this drafting principle yet; he might disagree, but hasn’t refuted it in what you pasted) SR-D5: “Here’s my advice as someone who makes a lot of money writing things.” (appeal to authority/credential) * Status: ✅ Unquestioned (no one has challenged the credential or its relevance yet) ==== ### ==== This addendum gives fresh support to the “tone = defensiveness” narrative by making it specific (word counts + mentor story + moat metaphor), so: * Your earlier “tone is an overgeneralization” becomes ⚔️ Contested now (it has a live challenger with new premises), not “unquestioned.” ===== This addendum doesn’t really strengthen the phone point. It strengthens brevity and accessibility critiques more generally. Your third-party praise comments still undercut the “objectively unusable” framing. ===== ==== SReflection’s add-on contains: ==== * One new uncontested factual comparison (word counts), * Several new prescriptive writing-quality claims (some uncontested, some now under OP’s standing rebuttals), * And a stronger, more specific attempt to reframe OP’s long replies as defensiveness—which is now actively contested rather than just “tone-policing.” If you want, I can now do the same “debate ends now” closure ledger again, but updated to include this addendum + your third-party praise comments, so you can see what survives as “unquestioned residue.”
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