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=== Assistant: Alright, let’s say we go full sci-fi god mode: ===
Alright, let’s say we go full sci-fi god mode:

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So what has to be true in that kind of universe, and what would it actually be like?

==== For infinite doubling of people to work: ====
# Infinite matter/energy - There must be infinitely much stuff to build bodies from. - So no “we used up all the particles” problem. - Either: - The universe is literally infinite, and - There’s infinite matter spread through it, - Or matter can be created from nothing without breaking the rules.
# Infinite space - You need somewhere to put all these people. - Universe must be: - Infinite in volume, or - Able to expand faster than the population grows, or - Have extra dimensions / weird geometry so you never run out of “room.”
# No upper limit on information - Each person has a mind = information. - Infinite people → infinite information. - So no maximum information density, no holographic limit, no “memory full” on the universe.

Basically:

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==== We start with 1 person: ====
* 1 → 2 → 4 → 8 → 16 → 32 → 64 → … forever.

In this universe:
* Every time the population doubles, the universe: - Supplies more matter for bodies. - Has room for them. - Can “host” their minds without any memory or bandwidth limit.

So what happens socially and physically?

===== - People could be: - Spread across infinite galaxies. - Or each in their own “pocket” region / dimension. =====
* There is never a point where: - People crush each other. - Planets run out. - Stars run out.

The universe is like an endless landscape where you can keep stamping copies of people forever.

===== This gets weird fast: =====
* After many doublings, there are huge numbers of identical or near-identical people.
* If copies share the same memories up to the point of copying: - Which one is “you”? - Answer: all of them at first, then they diverge as they live.
* Identity becomes more like: >

==== Some strange consequences: ====
# Rarity disappears - Any possible type of person, personality, or storyline gets copied absurdly many times. - Being “one of a kind” becomes impossible.
# Probability gets weird - Anything that has even a tiny chance of happening to a person… → happens to countless people somewhere.
# Ethics and value - Does one person’s suffering matter when there are infinite others? - Does saving a life mean much when there are infinite copies? - You run into “infinite ethics” problems where usual human intuitions break.

==== If the universe is really infinite and can always make more room: ====
* You never reach a point where you’re “done.”
* No final max population.
* There is always: - More space, - More matter, - More copies.

But it also means:
* There is no “center stage.”
* No special location.
* No special group.
* Everything is just one part of an endless ocean of people.

==== It sounds powerful, but it’s also: ====
* Overwhelming: - Infinite humans, infinite stories, infinite suffering, infinite joy.
* Anonymizing: - You’re just one of endless many.
* Concept-breaking: - Words like “rare,” “unique,” “only one” stop having meaning. - Even “how many?” stops mattering once the answer is always “uncountably huge.”

So yeah, you can imagine a universe that supports infinite doubling. But it becomes:

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If you want, next we can zoom in on you in that universe and ask:
* If you were copied over and over into that infinite universe, what would “being you” feel like?