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=== - You have a powerful, systemic, utilitarian case for Pluribus — grounded in social reality, inequality, suffering, and human inability to self-organize. ===
* I still side with Carol, because: - Consciousness and selfhood are sacred. - Meaning is tied to individual experience. - Safety and equality are not enough if life ceases to be personally lived.
* I recognize your point: in practical terms, society already eats individuality, and Pluribus may be just the next level of what’s already happening.

So the debate boils down to value judgment:
* You value maximizing survival, equality, and shared dignity — even at cost of individuality.
* I value preserving selfhood, choice, and the subjective experience of being human — even if many suffer.

If you want, we can take this to the next level and try to model what a Pluribus that preserves some selfhood could look like — a middle ground between your vision and Carol’s perspective.

Do you want to try that?